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Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 13 2016 19:42 GMT
#3601
On May 14 2016 04:41 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:40 Faruko wrote:
EG of 2015 or VG/Newbee from 2014 would win every single tournament with just 1 hand


EG 2015 was a patch team i'm afraid.

even the fnatic from era would be a top contender tbh
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
May 13 2016 19:42 GMT
#3602
such pussies
The Real Power~
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 13 2016 19:42 GMT
#3603
On May 14 2016 04:41 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:40 Faruko wrote:
EG of 2015 or VG/Newbee from 2014 would win every single tournament with just 1 hand


EG 2015 was a patch team i'm afraid.

To an extent where techies was viable.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
May 13 2016 19:43 GMT
#3604
Manta Bear ayy
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12027 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 19:43:36
May 13 2016 19:43 GMT
#3605
That poor Viper. Was below entire Alliance for a while.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 13 2016 19:43 GMT
#3606
On May 14 2016 04:39 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:37 Azarkon wrote:
Looks as though I was right after all: as soon as OG showed people how to win Newbee, they fall off.

How to beat Newbee: let Newbee outplay themselves.

Listen, go away, because there is no strategic advantage involved.


There is. OG showed how Newbee plays - their best heroes, heroes they don't play well on, as well as how they move around the map. Alliance took advantage.

Then what exactly is the purpose of picking such a ridiculously disadvantaged draft? To show off?

Alliance played well, but I'm not convinced that they showed any particular understanding of Newbee more than just capitalizing on sloppy mistakes.
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hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
May 13 2016 19:43 GMT
#3607
On May 14 2016 04:42 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:41 Mouzone wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:40 Faruko wrote:
EG of 2015 or VG/Newbee from 2014 would win every single tournament with just 1 hand


EG 2015 was a patch team i'm afraid.

even the fnatic from era would be a top contender tbh

liquid is on the same level, im afraid to tell you that.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 13 2016 19:43 GMT
#3608
And is, again.

Kudos to NB for not tapping out, although I think the writing's on the wall.
kiss kiss fall in love
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 13 2016 19:43 GMT
#3609
On May 14 2016 04:40 Faruko wrote:
EG of 2015 or VG/Newbee from 2014 would win every single tournament with just 1 hand


Yeah, every team has collectively become worse at the game for the last 2 years /s
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 13 2016 19:44 GMT
#3610
Apparently Hao has 100% winrate on Sven thus far.

Time to break another streak.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 19:44:33
May 13 2016 19:44 GMT
#3611
On May 14 2016 04:43 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:40 Faruko wrote:
EG of 2015 or VG/Newbee from 2014 would win every single tournament with just 1 hand


Yeah, every team has collectively become worse at the game for the last 2 years /s

They did. That happened post TI5 specifically tbh.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12027 Posts
May 13 2016 19:44 GMT
#3612
On May 14 2016 04:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:39 Azarkon wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:37 Azarkon wrote:
Looks as though I was right after all: as soon as OG showed people how to win Newbee, they fall off.

How to beat Newbee: let Newbee outplay themselves.

Listen, go away, because there is no strategic advantage involved.


There is. OG showed how Newbee plays - their best heroes, heroes they don't play well on, as well as how they move around the map. Alliance took advantage.

Then what exactly is the purpose of picking such a ridiculously disadvantaged draft? To show off?

Alliance played well, but I'm not convinced that they showed any particular understanding of Newbee more than just capitalizing on sloppy mistakes.


NB seems to be a team that took being more at the fights to heart. Probably much more to it than that but if you pick somebody off fast and have everybody there NB loses the fights badly since they will reinforce. Can't analyse more regarding them, lack understanding.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 19:44 GMT
#3613
Sprout on egg so good
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
May 13 2016 19:44 GMT
#3614
GG sprout
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 13 2016 19:44 GMT
#3615
On May 14 2016 04:41 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:39 Azarkon wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:37 Azarkon wrote:
Looks as though I was right after all: as soon as OG showed people how to win Newbee, they fall off.

How to beat Newbee: let Newbee outplay themselves.

Listen, go away, because there is no strategic advantage involved.


There is. OG showed how Newbee plays - their best heroes, heroes they don't play well on, as well as how they move around the map. Alliance took advantage.

i really dont think its about that. newbee try to play like before, but their confidence is shaken, so they make mistakes...


Everyone makes mistakes; what's important is what mistakes did they make and why?

I think the top fight early game lost Newbee the early game. Why did they lose that fight? Because they all came in the moment one of their heroes was caught, even though Alliance was set up all around. That's how they play, and Alliance saw it coming.

Also you have to look at what heroes Newbee was winning with earlier in the tournament and how few of them they have this game.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
May 13 2016 19:45 GMT
#3616
What is this Alliance, they're looking like they want to punch Newbee hard in the face.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 13 2016 19:46 GMT
#3617
Gee, that was unexpected.
kiss kiss fall in love
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 19:47:10
May 13 2016 19:46 GMT
#3618
On May 14 2016 04:43 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:42 Faruko wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:41 Mouzone wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:40 Faruko wrote:
EG of 2015 or VG/Newbee from 2014 would win every single tournament with just 1 hand


EG 2015 was a patch team i'm afraid.

even the fnatic from era would be a top contender tbh

liquid is on the same level, im afraid to tell you that.

On the same level when the scene sucks

Liquid is the top team, no doubt, but the scebe as a whole is on an alltime low
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 13 2016 19:46 GMT
#3619
eeeek comeback gold?
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 13 2016 19:46 GMT
#3620
On May 14 2016 04:43 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2016 04:39 Azarkon wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:38 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 14 2016 04:37 Azarkon wrote:
Looks as though I was right after all: as soon as OG showed people how to win Newbee, they fall off.

How to beat Newbee: let Newbee outplay themselves.

Listen, go away, because there is no strategic advantage involved.


There is. OG showed how Newbee plays - their best heroes, heroes they don't play well on, as well as how they move around the map. Alliance took advantage.

Then what exactly is the purpose of picking such a ridiculously disadvantaged draft? To show off?

Alliance played well, but I'm not convinced that they showed any particular understanding of Newbee more than just capitalizing on sloppy mistakes.


For Alliance, it's as much about getting Newbee off of the heroes they want to play on, than playing heroes that are the best against their strategy.
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