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OzVelas
Bulgaria516 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:43 Kipsate wrote: this feels like team nodamage vs team alildmg Is damage better than no damage? | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
yea, teama lildamage is gonna get reasonable damage with necro 3, death ward and dusa items. team no damage's prospects are pretty dim. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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ref4
2933 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:50 Kabras wrote: yea, teama lildamage is gonna get reasonable damage with necro 3, death ward and dusa items. team no damage's prospects are pretty dim. but as long as team no damage has the tempo control and their item timings down they should be able to push for objectives | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
Team Initiation so good | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
boar and necro afk | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:50 Kabras wrote: yea, teama lildamage is gonna get reasonable damage with necro 3, death ward and dusa items. team no damage's prospects are pretty dim. Until that happened, I guess. I wonder why BM sat on blink, was it to counter Axe's blink? | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Edit: Well the wiki says it doesn't but it sure looked like it did there | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:39 spudde123 wrote: I don't fully agree with the discussion of carry vs other sorts of mids you made. Basically all of the old Secret's best results came when w33 played farm intensive heroes. At Shanghai it was Invoker, OD, some WR, at Frankfurt and before it was WR, SF, Meepo, some Lina and Invoker too. Secret was never really that successful with actual tempo controlling mids. I also wouldn't put everything on Arteezy, as Puppey is sort of the one who is supposed to be the captain of the team, and he is often involved in the team's movements. But a lot of the smokes and whatnot are just not working out at all. But I do agree with w33 being generally very good lategame, and his style at that phase of the game generally fit that lineup very well. Middle heroes that I'd consider control are: Quas/Wex Invoker, Wind Runner, Meepo, Storm, Puck, Lina, Bat, and maybe a few others. Not all of them are bad in the late game but what's important is that they CAN carry the early and middle game. Shadow Fiend used to be decent for this too because you can get such a large lead in the middle game, but no one is playing him now. So I'd say that, in act, just about all of W33ha's best heroes were control heroes. Arteezy by contrast has been playing farm heroes for the last year and he has lost his feel for what to do when he does get a hero he needs to make room on, as he simply farms whenever he has the opportunity, and that's not how W33ha played and it's not how the team needs him to play. | ||
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Racket
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:52 TheTenthDoc wrote: I'm pretty sure Kraken Shell blocks Death Ward attacks but VP doesn't know that I mean, unless they changed damage block mechanic recently, Death Ward ALWAYS ignored damage block. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:53 Kipsate wrote: see team nodamage too tanky with meka vanguard blink n shit Wait you called coL team nodamage? ES alone has more damage than teamlildamage. | ||
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:54 ZeaL. wrote: Wards are immune to block. Otherwise rhasta and wd would be hard countered by crimson Crimson appeared later than either, it's more about old ass wc3 dota interactions. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
On May 14 2016 00:54 lolfail9001 wrote: Wait you called coL team nodamage? ES alone has more damage than teamlildamage. ya well death ward got cancelled in 2 seconds while cm got full channel off. and team lildamage fought before they had reasonable damage in the first place. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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