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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 13 2016 11:50 GMT
#2621
On May 13 2016 20:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse.

Arteezy is playing just fine.

Yep, so I guess the problem is his attitude ?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 13 2016 11:51 GMT
#2622
On May 13 2016 20:50 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse.

Arteezy is playing just fine.

Yep, so I guess the problem is his attitude ?

I have no freaking clue what is happening in Secret right now but what i can surely say is that Puppey is part of the problem everyone overlooks.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
May 13 2016 11:51 GMT
#2623
This guy is king :D
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 13 2016 11:51 GMT
#2624
ahahahaha

ok that was fucking funny
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
May 13 2016 11:51 GMT
#2625
On May 13 2016 20:37 Talin wrote:
Pretty sure EG is still a top 3/4 team, I just don't see them actually winning anything unless they improve


I think at this point to win the big tournaments you have to have the meta absolutely nailed.
EG hasn't done that for a long long time, in their last iteration they just rode on amazing individual skills to get to consistently good placement but they always fell short before the team that "got it". They never looked particularly dominant, they did their own things and scraped wins on talent. That wasn't enough then and with the downgrade in players skill with the shuffle I think they won't be able to substain the same consistency.

Hopefully they will be the team that gets the meta and win big again.
But I'm not holding my breath.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 11:57:01
May 13 2016 11:55 GMT
#2626
On May 13 2016 20:51 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:37 Talin wrote:
Pretty sure EG is still a top 3/4 team, I just don't see them actually winning anything unless they improve


I think at this point to win the big tournaments you have to have the meta absolutely nailed.
EG hasn't done that for a long long time, in their last iteration they just rode on amazing individual skills to get to consistently good placement but they always fell short before the team that "got it". They never looked particularly dominant, they did their own things and scraped wins on talent. That wasn't enough then and with the downgrade in players skill with the shuffle I think they won't be able to substain the same consistency.

Hopefully they will be the team that gets the meta and win big again.
But I'm not holding my breath.
I agree with this. However, I feel they have less players they need to cater to, to make a mark.
LiangHao
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 13 2016 11:55 GMT
#2627
On May 13 2016 20:46 Danzo wrote:


Damn...

Need to spread this more
-Terran-
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 13 2016 11:57 GMT
#2628
On May 13 2016 20:55 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:46 Danzo wrote:
https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/731080102470127616

Damn...

Need to spread this more


Except No Diggity technically never qualified to the event so.....
LiquidDota Staff
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-13 11:58:33
May 13 2016 11:57 GMT
#2629
Double post
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 13 2016 11:57 GMT
#2630
Thats pretty stupid way of thinking from cap tbh
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
May 13 2016 11:58 GMT
#2631
adnnnnd sound issues xd
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 13 2016 11:58 GMT
#2632
Well, looks like audio issues are still a thing
LiquidDota Staff
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
May 13 2016 11:58 GMT
#2633
Hey guys, I think it's raining.
passive quaranstream fan
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
May 13 2016 11:59 GMT
#2634
Ouch!
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
May 13 2016 11:59 GMT
#2635
On May 13 2016 20:57 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:55 Vertical wrote:
On May 13 2016 20:46 Danzo wrote:
https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/731080102470127616

Damn...

Need to spread this more


Except No Diggity technically never qualified to the event so.....

Im case you didn't get it
He refer to the much maligned invite system
-Terran-
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
May 13 2016 11:59 GMT
#2636
On May 13 2016 20:51 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:50 MrCon wrote:
On May 13 2016 20:21 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse.

Arteezy is playing just fine.

Yep, so I guess the problem is his attitude ?

I have no freaking clue what is happening in Secret right now but what i can surely say is that Puppey is part of the problem everyone overlooks.


If you take out the Shanghai major, their performances both with this and the old lineup have been lackluster for a while. At Shanghai they came into the event having almost completely changed their picks, as they had done poorly before it. They found some heroes that worked for them really well and went to win the tournament. But their players (in either lineup) aren't somehow incredibly superior to every other team, they can't consistently win against good teams if they are at a strategical disadvantage. And Puppey is not a captain who is somehow consistently superior to every other captain either.
Kaj
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore269 Posts
May 13 2016 12:00 GMT
#2637
The biggest problem with the secret team right now is that the support duo isnt pulling their weight if they dont get lion/doom.

Puppeys core heroes like enigma and enchantress and chen are simply NOT in the meta right now, and they cant play the more meta heroes like phoenix and wisp to the same level that newbee/OG could, or rather puppey cant play the hero at all, and it is really limiting their strategy A LOT.

The biggest problem with the team right now is that their support duo hero pool is limited as hell, and universe is a player that can make plays if you give him the neccessary farm, but with 2 massive farm eaters like EE and RTZ, its really really tough, and given PLD and puppey tendencies to want to farm too, you leave 5 greedy as fuck players.

They need to put EE on more space creating cores like weaver/clinkz/sladar/qop, and just let RTZ and universe do what he does best instead of them trying to make space for fEEd.
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
May 13 2016 12:00 GMT
#2638
On May 13 2016 20:59 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:57 OuchyDathurts wrote:
On May 13 2016 20:55 Vertical wrote:
On May 13 2016 20:46 Danzo wrote:
https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/731080102470127616

Damn...

Need to spread this more


Except No Diggity technically never qualified to the event so.....

Im case you didn't get it
He refer to the much maligned invite system


Ok but there's a reason one team got money and the other didn't. There's no complaint to be made.
LiquidDota Staff
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 13 2016 12:00 GMT
#2639
On May 13 2016 20:51 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:37 Talin wrote:
Pretty sure EG is still a top 3/4 team, I just don't see them actually winning anything unless they improve


I think at this point to win the big tournaments you have to have the meta absolutely nailed.
EG hasn't done that for a long long time, in their last iteration they just rode on amazing individual skills to get to consistently good placement but they always fell short before the team that "got it". They never looked particularly dominant, they did their own things and scraped wins on talent. That wasn't enough then and with the downgrade in players skill with the shuffle I think they won't be able to substain the same consistency.

Hopefully they will be the team that gets the meta and win big again.
But I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah, no team has a significant mechanical or post draft strategy edge anymore. Team's chemistry and drafts are the most important things atm.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12037 Posts
May 13 2016 12:01 GMT
#2640
On May 13 2016 20:55 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:46 Danzo wrote:
https://twitter.com/DotACapitalist/status/731080102470127616

Damn...

Need to spread this more


As far as I know they won money. Cap is wrong since he went by liquipedia which doesn't list any.
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