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On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then.
I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with.
Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff.
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On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse.
Actually your comment is cancer. Hes just a kid playing dotes. Leave him alone. You sound like a rejected ex-gf. -_-
Oh wait youre an EG fan..
User was warned for this post
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On May 13 2016 20:23 Corgi wrote:
Secret Strat:
Lose all tournaments, win majors and TI6.
First part: done
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On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. He may be frank, but he is an awful mindset for a teamplayer.
Good old Dracolich insight.
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On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse.
Why go full negative and say he's toxic etc? Teams have chemistry issues, the TI5 champion booted a player, the Shanghai Major champion booted two players. These are championship winning teams that felt their chemistry was off, that just goes to show how hard it is to gel
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On May 13 2016 20:27 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse. Actually your comment is cancer. Hes just a kid playing dotes. Leave him alone. You sound like a rejected ex-gf. -_-
His constant back and forth team swapping speak for itself. Who knows, maybe he just didn't like PPD and though he can reignite that passion he had with Secret.
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On May 13 2016 20:18 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:16 Dysisa wrote:Aside from two iffy high ground attempts, I think Alliance played that game pretty damn well. People are shitting on Secrets draft now since hindsight is 20/20 but back when the game first started, most people in here were saying the Alliance draft was awful and game losing. Armchair analysts proven wrong once again.  Think draft from Alliance was fine then everyone went WTF as they 5th pick Dazzle into a 3rd pick Axe which is just stupid. However the last pick Naga with Razor didn't make to much sense either
I don't necessarily agree re: Dazzle into Axe. It's only a stupid pick I feel if you're aiming for some sort of 4p1 lineup, or just a very defensive game in general. But as the actual game showed that wasn't really what Alliance was after at all, they seemed to pick him mainly for the heal and his ulti, both of which did a ton of work in the game.
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On May 13 2016 20:20 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:19 spudde123 wrote:
That radiant Secret shop fight was the game deciding moment really, and from the replay it looked like would have been an easy win for Secret had Universe hit the call. I don't think so, at all. Even winning that fight, Secret would have had an insanely uphill battle. Also Naga + Razor does NOT out carry LD, Sven, plus QoP at all.
This is something I feel many people miss. Naga isnt some outwin lategame carry. Many seemed to think Secret would just win late but I'd take Alliances lineup over secrets at 60+min any day. Sven is even one of the best carries against Naga because he doesnt care about illus and is very capable of not crumbling to the lane pressure a Naga builds.
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still a lot of time to figure things out before ti. sadly these kind of results go to show that having roster locks doesn't cancel out valve's love of invites.
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On May 13 2016 20:23 Corgi wrote:
Secret Strat:
Lose all tournaments, win majors and TI6.
they won't get to majors and ti6 if they lose all tournaments till then. their free invites off of last roster's success work have just about ran out. it's manila or bust.
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On May 13 2016 20:28 a-game wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse. Why go full negative and say he's toxic etc? Teams have chemistry issues, the TI5 champion booted a player, the Shanghai Major champion booted two players. These are championship winning teams that felt their chemistry was off, that just goes to show how hard it is to gel
I dont know. Because he comes off that way.
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On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity.
Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability.
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On May 13 2016 20:23 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:21 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse. Arteezy is playing just fine. I don't think he's speaking about his level of play, more of internal issue but we know nothing about this and he's an EG fan.
"he's an EG fan" Not relevant whatsoever.
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Dota dominated by the teams with the best synergy and singular vision, too many strong personalities = problems.
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On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion.
A lot has change since NTH tho. Envy so far has had great success with Secret. He just won a major afterall. He's still the most consistent right now with this current roster.
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On May 13 2016 20:31 Danzo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. A lot has change since NTH tho. Envy so far has had great success with Secret. He just won a major afterall. He's still the most consistent right now with this current roster. You might want to read my post again. Winning that major resulted in changes, and was also one of the best results after leaving tournament upon tournament early for months.
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On May 13 2016 20:30 Danzo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:23 nojok wrote:On May 13 2016 20:21 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse. Arteezy is playing just fine. I don't think he's speaking about his level of play, more of internal issue but we know nothing about this and he's an EG fan. "he's an EG fan" Not relevant whatsoever.
Says every rejected ex-gf in da world!
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On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability.
You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened.
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On May 13 2016 20:32 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:31 Danzo wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. A lot has change since NTH tho. Envy so far has had great success with Secret. He just won a major afterall. He's still the most consistent right now with this current roster. You might want to read my post again.
You're right. Misunderstood with his attitude and playstyle. Obviously you weren't talking about his performance.
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