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On May 13 2016 20:33 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:30 Danzo wrote:On May 13 2016 20:23 nojok wrote:On May 13 2016 20:21 lolfail9001 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:20 Danzo wrote:
It's really sad to say this, but is Arteezy actually cancer to the dota scene? Each team he hops onto he just brings them down and he's getting progressively worse. Arteezy is playing just fine. I don't think he's speaking about his level of play, more of internal issue but we know nothing about this and he's an EG fan. "he's an EG fan" Not relevant whatsoever. Says every rejected ex-gf in da world!
Huh?
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On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. I like how you say I twist his words, and then you twist his words. For your information they made chances after the very next tournament.
Puppey and Misery also said that there was friction between W33 and Envy.
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On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened.
But they won Shanghai.
So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery?
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Kind of interesting that all their wins except one were in 20-25 minute long games
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Vatican City State1573 Posts
On May 13 2016 20:35 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. But they won Shanghai. So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery?
because w33 and misery is the problem
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On May 13 2016 20:35 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. But they won Shanghai. So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery?
Speaking of which, I really wish DC was at this tournament. They look like they can potentially be the best NA team so far.
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On May 13 2016 20:35 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. But they won Shanghai. So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery?
Because they had some issues with w33, and they wanted to play more with Arteezy. Them having some issues with a player doesn't mean that the atmosphere as a whole is bad. Also their results outside of the major were rather lackluster, so Puppey/EE or whoever may have had doubts about their ability to succeed in the future, even if they won the big event.
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Pretty sure EG is still a top 3/4 team, I just don't see them actually winning anything unless they improve
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On May 13 2016 20:18 Skynx wrote:
Imagine if they had firebird instead of dazzle lol
Hard to say. Lane would not have worked out as they did. Dazzle early burst is higher than phoenix.
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On May 13 2016 20:35 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. I like how you say I twist his words, and then you twist his words. For your information they made chances after the very next tournament. Puppey and Misery also said that there was friction between W33 and Envy.
What is the source on this friction between w33 and Envy? From what I remember what Misery said was that w33 was stubborn when talking to Puppey, and said nothing about Envy in that regard.
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On May 13 2016 20:36 sunrazgriz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:35 FakeDeath wrote:On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. But they won Shanghai. So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery? because w33 and misery is the problem
I want to see their problems in the light of a bo3 DC vs secret, and moo has a shot at being the best offlaner NA.
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Sanya12364 Posts
Secret dodging just about everybody.  a straight up elimination
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On May 13 2016 20:36 sunrazgriz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:35 FakeDeath wrote:On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. But they won Shanghai. So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery? because w33 and misery is the problem
says who? looking from misery and w33's perspective, one could say puppey and ee were the problem. two huge egos who banked so much credit from the hard work of others and have the power to hire and fire pretty much as they please. Nobody is going to tell them its them that needs an attitude change.
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Sanya12364 Posts
On May 13 2016 20:39 nojok wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:36 sunrazgriz wrote:On May 13 2016 20:35 FakeDeath wrote:On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. But they won Shanghai. So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery? because w33 and misery is the problem I want to see their problems in the light of a bo3 DC vs secret, and moo has a shot at being the best offlaner NA.
All hail the MOO-god
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On May 13 2016 20:37 spudde123 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2016 20:35 FakeDeath wrote:On May 13 2016 20:33 spudde123 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:29 Dracolich70 wrote:On May 13 2016 20:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:On May 13 2016 20:24 Dracolich70 wrote:
Not sure about the focus on RTZ being toxic. Since EE was kicked from Nth, he has duplicated and projected that emotion since then. I don't think so. While EE is simply awful to listen to when he streams (just repeats one sentence to someone for 30 seconds straight), I think he's quite focused and doesn't get tilted by bad games, though I imagine he can't be that fun to communicate with. Though honestly, yeah I dunno, hard to speculate this stuff. I don't care about how he conducts himself in his streams. What I am referring to is his mindset in a team game. He may be frank, but his mentality is pretty bad in a team environment. Since he was crying after being kicked from Nth, he has projected that emotion within his teams, and kicks them rather than fighting adversity. Misery talked about this that W33, PLD and he were fearing getting kicked, and that is not a good team emotion. Team chemistry>ability. You are twisting Misery's words pretty hard to fit your own narrative. Misery said that the atmosphere in the team was consistently good despite their lackluster performances between Frankfurt and Shanghai, and the fear of being kicked is easily explained by the fact that the team was doing extremely well pre Frankfurt and then seemingly fell off after the major. Had they bombed out at Shanghai, roster changes would have surely happened. But they won Shanghai. So if the team atmosphere was good, why the need to boot w33/Misery? Because they had some issues with w33, and they wanted to play more with Arteezy. Them having some issues with a player doesn't mean that the atmosphere as a whole is bad. Also their results outside of the major were rather lackluster, so Puppey/EE or whoever may have had doubts about their ability to succeed in the future, even if they won the big event. I hope you are aware you are confirming what you deny. I don't know if it is a coqnitive problem or what.
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On May 13 2016 20:39 TanGeng wrote:Secret dodging just about everybody. a straight up elimination Best way of not getting figured out.
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Cant wait to see DK/Alche for G so I can take a good nap.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
Noxville's answer to it is top notch.
The meat: Vega won more games than Navi, MVP hot6ix and same as Fnatic.
And got $55k less
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EPT
