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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
May 11 2016 14:33 GMT
#3081
ALLIANCE
TIMBERSAW PLEASE
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 11 2016 14:34 GMT
#3082
On May 11 2016 23:33 Gevna wrote:
1 year ago, "it's stupid that top tier teams have to play in qualifiers, the scene is oversaturrated with games".

Today, "All teams must play in qualifier, they are not playing enough game at all".

In 1 year, "Please stop making top teams play in qualifier, this is meaningless and hype killing".

ive been asking for full qualifiers since forever

also, get rid of lower bracket while you are at it
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 11 2016 14:34 GMT
#3083
On May 11 2016 23:27 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 23:25 Faruko wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:23 Diavlo wrote:
I don't think you can call top teams in the west considering the incredibly small number of games they each played, I mean are OG or Alliance good? Who the fucks nows they have played like 5 games.

The east is easier but only internally, LGD and VG are awful, Nb looks amazing and the rest is in between.

Thats a problem with dota 2 as an scene

the amount of games teams play is incredibly low if you are considered "top team", you get invited to most tournaments, etc... no real practice, scrims are great but you need some of the real deal

in csgo you see top teams playing online qualifiers/leagues all the time, there are some tournaments with invite systems but every week off from a tournament theres navi, lg, astralist, nip, nv, etc... playing each other trying to qualify

Most of people agreed there were way too many invites for the next major. I hope valve goes for something like 8 invites at TI.


I think the 10 invite structure is probably about where things will end up, after we get through Manila. I think the Play-In Wildcard series is a good thing. (Would have liked to see it for Manila, as well.)
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
May 11 2016 14:34 GMT
#3084
On May 11 2016 23:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Qualifiers are a big win for mid-tier teams because as evidenced by some of the sets of invites Valve does not give a flying fuck if you lose in qualifiers for tons of tournaments as long as you have a good showing at a LAN or two.

The problem is there isn't enough time for high-tier teams to justify playing in qualifiers for tournaments they're not invited to-they'd have to drop out of a few at the last minute, which was kind of a big problem for the scene for a while.

I definitely didn't consider that, actually.
kiss kiss fall in love
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
May 11 2016 14:35 GMT
#3085
I think this is Alliance's game. I expect this team to make a comeback because I think the current patch favors their playstyle.
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 14:36:22
May 11 2016 14:35 GMT
#3086
So is alliance going back in the dumpster?

Or is OG going back in the dumpster?
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
May 11 2016 14:36 GMT
#3087
Man a Timbersaw would shred up OG's draft so bad.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
May 11 2016 14:36 GMT
#3088
Akke on Enigma is scary, according to him he can't play the hero.

In any case the greed is real.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 14:36:57
May 11 2016 14:36 GMT
#3089
On May 11 2016 23:34 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 23:33 Gevna wrote:
1 year ago, "it's stupid that top tier teams have to play in qualifiers, the scene is oversaturrated with games".

Today, "All teams must play in qualifier, they are not playing enough game at all".

In 1 year, "Please stop making top teams play in qualifier, this is meaningless and hype killing".

ive been asking for full qualifiers since forever

also, get rid of lower bracket while you are at it

Why do you hate the lower bracket miracle run hype anime desu?
kiss kiss fall in love
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 11 2016 14:36 GMT
#3090
winner of OG-Alliance plays Newbee. Loser plays Secret right?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
May 11 2016 14:37 GMT
#3091
On May 11 2016 23:23 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 23:20 Nyan wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:17 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:15 Baggage wrote:
People are rating Secret highly because of the supposed individual talent and big names on the team. Hopefully, people will gain some perspective on Secret and realise that they are nowhere close to being a top-tier team at the moment. They certainly have the potential to be a top team, but they are nowhere close to meeting the expectations the community imagined, let alone themselves.

Who are the top teams right now though? NewBee and MVP and that's it?

LIQUID

And wings.

what? how about no.
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 14:37:28
May 11 2016 14:37 GMT
#3092
lets see if OG can pass the alch test and not give first aghs to beastmaster :^)
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
sweatbomb
Profile Joined September 2014
Sweden469 Posts
May 11 2016 14:37 GMT
#3093
Hahaha Im so happy. Hopefully Weeha and Misery are laughing their asses off aswell!
Burn Secret burn!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
May 11 2016 14:37 GMT
#3094
On May 11 2016 23:32 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Qualifiers are a big win for mid-tier teams because as evidenced by some of the sets of invites Valve does not give a flying fuck if you lose in qualifiers for tons of tournaments as long as you have a good showing at a LAN or two.

The problem is there isn't enough time for high-tier teams to justify playing in qualifiers for tournaments they're not invited to-they'd have to drop out of a few at the last minute, which was kind of a big problem for the scene for a while.

It was true when the scene was not so stacked and many tournaments offered very little rewards, now that prize pools are going up and that the top3 is very far from decided, I don't see any reason to give this advantage to so many teams. Many tournaments are going for different phase qualifiers too, which is perfectly in line with what some of us want. It will also provide the perfect ground for the new blood to sharpen, which they lacked for a very long time.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
May 11 2016 14:38 GMT
#3095
rofl...
hit me. hit me. oops
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 11 2016 14:38 GMT
#3096
oh bulldog
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
May 11 2016 14:38 GMT
#3097
bulldong with nice feed
Korean overlords
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 11 2016 14:38 GMT
#3098
On May 11 2016 23:37 Nyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 23:23 nojok wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:20 Nyan wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:17 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:15 Baggage wrote:
People are rating Secret highly because of the supposed individual talent and big names on the team. Hopefully, people will gain some perspective on Secret and realise that they are nowhere close to being a top-tier team at the moment. They certainly have the potential to be a top team, but they are nowhere close to meeting the expectations the community imagined, let alone themselves.

Who are the top teams right now though? NewBee and MVP and that's it?

LIQUID

And wings.

what? how about no.

if you consider liquid top, then wings should be among the posibilities too

they DESTROYED liquid, they even won a game with a lvl 4 bh at 18 minutes or so lol
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-11 14:42:06
May 11 2016 14:39 GMT
#3099
On May 11 2016 23:38 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2016 23:37 Nyan wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:23 nojok wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:20 Nyan wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:17 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On May 11 2016 23:15 Baggage wrote:
People are rating Secret highly because of the supposed individual talent and big names on the team. Hopefully, people will gain some perspective on Secret and realise that they are nowhere close to being a top-tier team at the moment. They certainly have the potential to be a top team, but they are nowhere close to meeting the expectations the community imagined, let alone themselves.

Who are the top teams right now though? NewBee and MVP and that's it?

LIQUID

And wings.

what? how about no.

if you consider liquid top, then wings should be among the posibilities too

they DESTROYED liquid, they even won a game with a lvl 4 bh at 18 minutes or so lol

so everyone who won against wings is an even more top tier team? Is this how this works?

The reason Liquid is considered one of the few top teams is that they're probably the only consistent team right now. Sure they haven't had a 1st finisher since the Defense for big tournaments but they're practically always top3. And they're already locked into the upper bracket for Epicenter as well.
Wings had that win but I don't see the consistency yet, unlike Newbee.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
May 11 2016 14:39 GMT
#3100
Top lane is at least entertaining :D
Smile, tomorrow will be worse
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