EPT[EPICENTER] Wild Card - Page 7
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shouldbeworking
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote: Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite? They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
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eonrulz
United Kingdom225 Posts
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On May 09 2016 17:58 Taf the Ghost wrote: Complexity has better late-game if they can keep the team-fighting even. Swindlezz being stacked is the key for Complexity going late. I don't think so. DK is such a beast when fully loaded, and Sven kind of falls off as his bkb gets shorter. NB's main problem is Doom's irrelevance right now. | ||
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Tuco
China200 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:01 hfglgg wrote: man i cant tell if newbee just teamfights so good or col teamfights terribly, but they are losing every engagement that newbee isnt immediately pulling out from. Both. Newbee are splitting up well, Col jumping in poorly. But when Col engages well, they will win the fight regardless of how newbee engages. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote: They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's. Well, if you look at recent results West is behind, the only recent exception being Shanghai. | ||
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Lancehead
Canada123 Posts
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:03 DucK- wrote: Both. Newbee are splitting up well, Col jumping in poorly. But when Col engages well, they will win the fight regardless of how newbee engages. Their 'good' engages are fully dependant on Newbee letting them land a vac+storm hammer on more than 1-2 people, though. As long as NB keep splitting well and keeping Sven / DS separated, Col just has no chance. Invoker had like no influence on the game, too. | ||
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babysimba
10466 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:01 hfglgg wrote: man i cant tell if newbee just teamfights so good or col teamfights terribly, but they are losing every engagement that newbee isnt immediately pulling out from. NB's teamfight lineup is twice as strong on even networth. Col can only rely on vacuum combo initiation | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:04 Salazarz wrote: Their 'good' engages are fully dependant on Newbee letting them land a vac+storm hammer on more than 1-2 people, though. As long as NB keep splitting well and keeping Sven / DS separated, Col just has no chance. Invoker had like no influence on the game, too. Invoker's missing every spell XD | ||
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:03 TRAP[yoo] wrote: going hg was difficult for nb but most of the fights outside of cols base were rather onesided Icewall is pretty good against 4 melees. | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On May 09 2016 17:58 goody153 wrote: But improving their skill for a tournament, doesn't mean you will win it, now does it?like ti4 or ti5  they are the definition of the biggest tournamentseg doesn't count as the entire west you know Of course it is a notion taken with a grain of salt, as the CIS teams mostly failed outside Na'vi, and peaked more in the multiple tournaments that EU had at those times. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
ya. invoker and ds are nasty on hg | ||
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Dracolich70
Denmark3820 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:04 lolfail9001 wrote: That is only if you only pick first place and ignore secondary ones, which goody just used with EG, as illegitimate..Well, if you look at recent results West is behind, the only recent exception being Shanghai. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On May 09 2016 18:04 lolfail9001 wrote: Well, if you look at recent results West is behind, the only recent exception being Shanghai. Which is why this tournament will decide whether the West is back enough to take Manila. Also, while the West lost all three of the recent tournaments, the top Chinese teams did, also. | ||
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