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Tuco
Profile Joined September 2010
China200 Posts
May 09 2016 09:06 GMT
#141
Haha Chuan fingering a creep right after gg is called.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 09 2016 09:06 GMT
#142
Purge saying Complexity is playing well, wtf is he high on Bernie Sanders fiending or what?
Getting too old for this..
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
May 09 2016 09:07 GMT
#143
On May 09 2016 17:24 Azarkon wrote:
Hard work giving a hard time to Newbee.

Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
May 09 2016 09:07 GMT
#144
classic azarkon LR where the entire discussion is on west vs china instead of the game

really nice resilience by NB to win late game with a dk/jug lineup which was designed for early push and was down ~5k in the midgame, which im sure they didnt expect
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
May 09 2016 09:07 GMT
#145
On May 09 2016 18:06 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.

Well, if you look at recent results West is behind, the only recent exception being Shanghai.


Yes, which is why this tournament will decide whether the West is back enough to take Manila.


Pretty sure it will be (drumroll) Manila that will decide whether the West is back enough to take it. Hak hak hak.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-09 09:09:38
May 09 2016 09:07 GMT
#146
On May 09 2016 18:07 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 17:24 Azarkon wrote:
Hard work giving a hard time to Newbee.



They did. It was a difficult game than any Newbee play in the last month, except against Tongfu.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
May 09 2016 09:07 GMT
#147
On May 09 2016 18:07 Kraznaya wrote:
classic azarkon LR where the entire discussion is on west vs china instead of the game

really nice resilience by NB to win late game with a dk/jug lineup which was designed for early push and was down ~5k in the midgame, which im sure they didnt expect


Leave azarkon alone
Getting too old for this..
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 09 2016 09:07 GMT
#148
On May 09 2016 18:06 Dracolich70 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.

Well, if you look at recent results West is behind, the only recent exception being Shanghai.
That is only if you only pick first place and ignore secondary ones, which goody just used with EG, as illegitimate..

I am using Azarkon's own measures against him, shhh.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 09 2016 09:08 GMT
#149
Col had like 75% bad initiations that game. And Chessie couldn't land a spell. I'm surprised cuz I remembered that he played a decent Invoker.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
May 09 2016 09:08 GMT
#150
Okay, cookie cutter DiG pick.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
May 09 2016 09:09 GMT
#151
On May 09 2016 18:07 Kraznaya wrote:
classic azarkon LR where the entire discussion is on west vs china instead of the game

really nice resilience by NB to win late game with a dk/jug lineup which was designed for early push and was down ~5k in the midgame, which im sure they didnt expect


It wasn't an early push lineup, honestly. Their lineup would remain solid throughout the entire game which is why they didn't go very heavy on pushing early. You could see DK was basically unkillable past 30 minutes even with Sven wailing on him uninterrupted, and they had enough point disable while only really having one person to worry about (as long as invoker gets doomed as he should).
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
May 09 2016 09:09 GMT
#152
I really don't think purge should be on shows, the guy doesn't bring any life to a production
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
May 09 2016 09:10 GMT
#153
On May 09 2016 18:07 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:06 Dracolich70 wrote:
On May 09 2016 18:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.

Well, if you look at recent results West is behind, the only recent exception being Shanghai.
That is only if you only pick first place and ignore secondary ones, which goody just used with EG, as illegitimate..

I am using Azarkon's own measures against him, shhh.
So arguments on both sides are a melting pot, where none of you have a standard to argue against the other, but rather against your own arguments. Brilliant.
LiangHao
an00bis
Profile Joined March 2011
156 Posts
May 09 2016 09:11 GMT
#154
Imagine if col didn't have track. Track pretty much keeping them in game
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
May 09 2016 09:11 GMT
#155
why does diggity value venomancer so highly? is synderen trying to get the maelk award?
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 09 2016 09:11 GMT
#156
On May 09 2016 18:09 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:07 Kraznaya wrote:
classic azarkon LR where the entire discussion is on west vs china instead of the game

really nice resilience by NB to win late game with a dk/jug lineup which was designed for early push and was down ~5k in the midgame, which im sure they didnt expect


It wasn't an early push lineup, honestly. Their lineup would remain solid throughout the entire game which is why they didn't go very heavy on pushing early. You could see DK was basically unkillable past 30 minutes even with Sven wailing on him uninterrupted, and they had enough point disable while only really having one person to worry about (as long as invoker gets doomed as he should).


Yea their ease of execution was so much higher. If either Invoker or DS gets controlled, Col had no chance at all. Col needed more Force/Lotus/Linkens XD
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
May 09 2016 09:11 GMT
#157
You know, with Swindlezz's teams, it's always that "if". They finally look like they're getting it together, then they do something stupid.

I wasn't around for the "When did EG throw last?" days, but it must have been like that, I assume?
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
May 09 2016 09:11 GMT
#158
You can't argue with Azarkon with normal standards, it's like talking to a wall
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
May 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#159
On May 09 2016 18:07 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:07 Kraznaya wrote:
classic azarkon LR where the entire discussion is on west vs china instead of the game

really nice resilience by NB to win late game with a dk/jug lineup which was designed for early push and was down ~5k in the midgame, which im sure they didnt expect


Leave azarkon alone

Yeah guys azarkon is just doing his thing.

Speaking of the game i actually felt like newbee had the better lineup overall. If coL got initiationed they were screwed as fuck but when it is newbee they had a chance to retaliate.
this is a quote
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 09 2016 09:12 GMT
#160
On May 09 2016 18:07 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2016 18:06 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 18:04 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 18:01 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:58 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:57 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:55 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:52 Azarkon wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:50 goody153 wrote:
On May 09 2016 17:48 Azarkon wrote:
I think the last time Newbee was this close against a Chinese team was against Tongfu.

i wouldn't call this close


It is when you consider Newbee's games against other Chinese teams.

And this is not the best Western team, obviously.

Ah "best" western teams like the tournaments where VG.R and wings won


Western teams always improve their skill around a huge tournament. Just saying.

Yeah, like they did at TI2 and TI4, amirite?


They did, in fact. But the Chinese worked harder in 2012, and 2014 was very close when you look at the games lost on each side, and the West was behind before the international in 2014, as shown by the results of every team except for PPD's.

Well, if you look at recent results West is behind, the only recent exception being Shanghai.


Yes, which is why this tournament will decide whether the West is back enough to take Manila.


Pretty sure it will be (drumroll) Manila that will decide whether the West is back enough to take it. Hak hak hak.


There's no value to using the tournament's results to decide the tournament's results.

Were Newbee to come in here and win the entire tournament, then China is the favorite for Manila, obviously.

But in case they lose to anyone other than Secret, the West will win.
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