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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
April 30 2016 15:34 GMT
#221
Well, I still don't understand those two(!) MKBs against no evasion...
There can only be one Geisterkarle
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 15:35:53
April 30 2016 15:35 GMT
#222
On May 01 2016 00:34 Geisterkarle wrote:
Well, I still don't understand those two(!) MKBs against no evasion...

I still don't understand no plus armor and damage block against slardar AND blademail axe.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
April 30 2016 15:36 GMT
#223
On May 01 2016 00:34 Geisterkarle wrote:
Well, I still don't understand those two(!) MKBs against no evasion...

If they wanted lockdown and bashes they should have went Abyssal.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 30 2016 15:38 GMT
#224
MVP knows how to play the late-game better than Vega. This wasn't a throw, but Vega really botched up a lot of things in the very late game. They spent all of their time trying to burn down Slardar & Axe, when they could have exploded the other 3, then cleaned them up.

Also, they needed more lockdown, which they didn't build. MVP worked themselves out of their deficit, but they know they shouldn't have won that game. That as a gift from Vega.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 30 2016 15:39 GMT
#225
regardless of if no evasion, it is still one of the highest dps items.
the old alternative was abyssal.
you could tell their approach was,
'we can't avoid the full engagement, so we need to throw the kitchen sink and everything and take the edge asap.'
obv without divine thows.
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MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
April 30 2016 15:40 GMT
#226
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
April 30 2016 15:42 GMT
#227
Don't doubt our korean overlords
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2016 15:42 GMT
#228
On May 01 2016 00:39 nanaoei wrote:
regardless of if no evasion, it is still one of the highest dps items.
the old alternative was abyssal.
you could tell their approach was,
'we can't avoid the full engagement, so we need to throw the kitchen sink and everything and take the edge asap.'
obv without divine thows.

Without evasion it loses in DPS to literally every other pure dps item at similar cost.

A fucking daedalus would be better as DPS item.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 30 2016 15:42 GMT
#229
On May 01 2016 00:40 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?


Let the supports and the veno get all of their ultimates off.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 15:43:43
April 30 2016 15:43 GMT
#230
On May 01 2016 00:40 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?

Why would not MVP win in late game with - armor against bear and veno/phoenix/axe against 2 melee dps cores and puck?
On May 01 2016 00:42 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 00:40 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?


Let the supports and the veno get all of their ultimates off.

I mean, as long as Axe had blink ready, Vega can't really jump the supports/Veno though.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
April 30 2016 15:44 GMT
#231
On May 01 2016 00:42 Shaella wrote:
Don't doubt our korean overlords

Sort of gave up on them after such a bad LAN showing and defeats to Fnatic online.
But I guess it was more them getting complacent after a big lan victory than them getting "figured out".
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
April 30 2016 15:47 GMT
#232
Wait, axe-tusk!?
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
April 30 2016 15:48 GMT
#233
take me dancin tonight boys
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
April 30 2016 15:48 GMT
#234
On May 01 2016 00:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 00:40 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?

Why would not MVP win in late game with - armor against bear and veno/phoenix/axe against 2 melee dps cores and puck?
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 00:42 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 01 2016 00:40 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?


Let the supports and the veno get all of their ultimates off.

I mean, as long as Axe had blink ready, Vega can't really jump the supports/Veno though.


I don't really know this patch at all, but the casters were kind of making it out to be that MVP was on the clock to make things happen.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 30 2016 15:57 GMT
#235
On May 01 2016 00:42 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 00:39 nanaoei wrote:
regardless of if no evasion, it is still one of the highest dps items.
the old alternative was abyssal.
you could tell their approach was,
'we can't avoid the full engagement, so we need to throw the kitchen sink and everything and take the edge asap.'
obv without divine thows.

Without evasion it loses in DPS to literally every other pure dps item at similar cost.

A fucking daedalus would be better as DPS item.


i think u need to relax a little.
outside of divine or the ultraexpensive bloodthorn (which are both nor appropriate for tht game), daedalus would pretty much be the highest dps item, which you're comparing the mkb to.

when the information is incomplete and the game feels greatly in your favor as was with vega, making purchases like MKB is fine. some teams/players do it to deter evasion and to exert how far ahead you are. doesn't mean they couldn't have made solar crests off that giant rosh bounty they got, in order to support their two 3k hp cores. he went lotus instead.

if they had perfect information and foresight alright maybe they budget for a crystalys into a full daedalus. lol.
i mean crit is phys, minibash is magic. which u think scales better?
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
April 30 2016 15:58 GMT
#236
On May 01 2016 00:48 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 00:43 lolfail9001 wrote:
On May 01 2016 00:40 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?

Why would not MVP win in late game with - armor against bear and veno/phoenix/axe against 2 melee dps cores and puck?
On May 01 2016 00:42 Taf the Ghost wrote:
On May 01 2016 00:40 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Wait wait. How the hell did MVP win the late game with those heroes?
I go eat after MVP is down towers and kills to a LD with radiance at 18 minutes only to find they won?


Let the supports and the veno get all of their ultimates off.

I mean, as long as Axe had blink ready, Vega can't really jump the supports/Veno though.


I don't really know this patch at all, but the casters were kind of making it out to be that MVP was on the clock to make things happen.


I think they just underestimated the staying power of Phoenix and Veno vs a lineup that only carries one BKB and the carry potential of Slardar and Axe.
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Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
April 30 2016 16:03 GMT
#237
suddenly scepter jakiro laying a 30second fire in front of your base
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
April 30 2016 16:04 GMT
#238
On May 01 2016 01:03 Nyan wrote:
suddenly scepter jakiro laying a 30second fire in front of your base

1800 path distance 30 seconds fire

completely balanced.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-30 16:05:17
April 30 2016 16:05 GMT
#239
On May 01 2016 01:04 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2016 01:03 Nyan wrote:
suddenly scepter jakiro laying a 30second fire in front of your base

1800 path distance 30 seconds fire

completely balanced.

Still is not picked, should be 60 seconds.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
April 30 2016 16:10 GMT
#240
Damn, even without an Aghs this is a long fire....
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