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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 07:34:42
April 22 2016 07:34 GMT
#281
Secret loses very first game.

Arteezy = why did I join this team.

Puppey = can't win with Arteezy.
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
April 22 2016 07:34 GMT
#282
such a sexy wall
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
April 22 2016 07:34 GMT
#283
Who did that bkb-blink-hex on naga, between dire t2 & t3? Game winning move right there.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 22 2016 07:34 GMT
#284
Empire were awful the last time i saw them, they have trained really well it seems, props to them
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 22 2016 07:34 GMT
#285
holy lobster dont pick lesh again in this patch
-Terran-
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 22 2016 07:35 GMT
#286
On April 22 2016 16:34 Elurie wrote:
Who did that bkb-blink-hex on naga, between dire t2 & t3? Game winning move right there.

I think DS
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 22 2016 07:35 GMT
#287
WINGS
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Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 07:36:34
April 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#288
Such a nice performance from wings..pretty happy for them.. especially for my boy iceice
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#289
Complexity went for comfort over Meta and kind of paid for it. OD was the 5th pick.

Also, if you have a team that 1st picks Invoker, you've got to remove Lion. The stun + hex + finger + Sunstrike can keep a team in the game. And they used it to low-risk gank Cheesie a bunch.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
April 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#290
i actually think BKB was the item for envy, over the butterfly, but that's just me.
arteezy's item choices didn't pay off for what actually ended up happening in the game.
an earlier bkb and maybe they have a better chance and all in all the timings were quite disjointed between him, naga, and universe getting absolutely nothing on nyx.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 07:39:54
April 22 2016 07:36 GMT
#291
Swindlezz was out pick that game. Even though I do think they played pretty well in the early and middle game, it was always going to be harder to play a strategy that is all about getting through every spell, than a strategy that just require you to not die to those.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
April 22 2016 07:37 GMT
#292
On April 22 2016 16:34 Azarkon wrote:
Secret loses very first game.

Arteezy = why did I join this team.

Puppey = can't win with Arteezy.

Hopefully this goes on forever... can't stand arteezy
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Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
April 22 2016 07:37 GMT
#293
Secret played so weird in that game. Getting easily baited into bad team fights. The Nyxx pick accomplished nothing. They didn't utilize Wisp/OD as often later in the game. There was a few nice moments in the early game near their mid tower with OD being saved and IO plays, but overall a few major key blunders just made them look sloppy.
Getting too old for this..
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
April 22 2016 07:37 GMT
#294
21-1 Invoker... Must have been a nightmare for complexity. fucken 360injoker is disgusting to watch when he gets to that point.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 22 2016 07:38 GMT
#295
On April 22 2016 16:36 Azarkon wrote:
Swindlezz was out pick that game. Even though I do think they played pretty well in the early and middle game, it was always going to be harder to play a strategy that is all about getting through every spell, than a strategy that just requires surviving those spells.


Puppey just rode Invoker + Lion to winning Shanghai. The synergy & risk/reward is just too damn good.

Granted, great game by Iceice.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
April 22 2016 07:39 GMT
#296
Rtz is a world class player if not one of the very best, however going from carry to mid in a patch like we have at the moment was a super risky move. Be interesting what draft puppey does in game 2, im excited to see
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 22 2016 07:39 GMT
#297
They shouldn't have given away that hero three games, no, but they'll get another opportunity to force that middle player into a different hero.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 22 2016 07:40 GMT
#298
On April 22 2016 16:19 ch33psh33p wrote:
full confidence empire will get naga'd out of this game.

Lul
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
April 22 2016 07:40 GMT
#299
On April 22 2016 16:37 Danzo wrote:
Secret played so weird in that game. Getting easily baited into bad team fights. The Nyxx pick accomplished nothing. They didn't utilize Wisp/OD as often later in the game. There was a few nice moments in the early game near their mid tower with OD being saved and IO plays, but overall a few major key blunders just made them look sloppy.

Nyx pick is Universe ego ala Yoky- I want mid or feed
EG style of demi 4-protect-1 fits that pick
but not Secret's pick
-Terran-
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-22 07:41:41
April 22 2016 07:40 GMT
#300
I feel RTZ's item choice was game losing. He needed the standard blink hex bkb build for initiation after naga spread the map out for them.

Spectre's haunt + 1 initiator could easily pick off heroes already and they had 4 initiators lol. Letting Empire control the pace of the game is not a good idea.
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