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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 02 2016 12:45 GMT
#2281
On March 02 2016 21:39 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 21:29 Azarkon wrote:
After all the games today and during the groups, I am certain of the following:

Koreans have one of the best early and middle game rotations among all teams here, and the best understanding of push times. Their individual skill isn't necessarily above that of other teams and their strategies, up to now, have all been the same basic idea, and we haven't actually seen them in the late game in a situation where they have to play an even game, so they're in no way safe. But with the above advantages, any team that doesn't understand their push times, else lack the early/middle game rotations to deal with them, will certainly lose to them. There are only a few teams in this tournament, as such, that I'd place above them, all of them with smart leaders.

Chinese teams and the slower Western teams both need to understand that their strategies are shit, and that the Koreans are winning every game in under 30 minutes because they actually have the right idea. You need to play fast, else a way to shut down teams that do play fast. Up to now, push strategies are winning it all.

Koreans across genre generally focus on execution based play. Mechanics and high APM over decision making and mind games (generally).

In terms of individual skill, I don't think QO is lacking anything other than the hero pool compared to the top midlaners. Febby and MP seemingly underperform compared to the others but MP is transitioning to the carry role and Febby seems like he has taken over the March consistency role.


QO is scarily good mechanically these days, i'm in awe this is the same guy that went something like 0-6 vs s4 in mid when MVP first came into the scene.
Rillanon.au
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 12:46:49
March 02 2016 12:46 GMT
#2282
top production - did anyone else hear a windows 10 notification sound? lmao
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
March 02 2016 12:49 GMT
#2283
On March 02 2016 21:39 MaCRo.gg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 21:29 Azarkon wrote:
After all the games today and during the groups, I am certain of the following:

Koreans have one of the best early and middle game rotations among all teams here, and the best understanding of push times. Their individual skill isn't necessarily above that of other teams and their strategies, up to now, have all been the same basic idea, and we haven't actually seen them in the late game in a situation where they have to play an even game, so they're in no way safe. But with the above advantages, any team that doesn't understand their push times, else lack the early/middle game rotations to deal with them, will certainly lose to them. There are only a few teams in this tournament, as such, that I'd place above them, all of them with smart leaders.

Chinese teams and the slower Western teams both need to understand that their strategies are shit, and that the Koreans are winning every game in under 30 minutes because they actually have the right idea. You need to play fast, else a way to shut down teams that do play fast. Up to now, push strategies are winning it all.

Koreans across genre generally focus on execution based play. Mechanics and high APM over decision making and mind games (generally).

In terms of individual skill, I don't think QO is lacking anything other than the hero pool compared to the top midlaners. Febby and MP seemingly underperform compared to the others but MP is transitioning to the carry role and Febby seems like he has taken over the March consistency role.

Inca disagrees so much.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
March 02 2016 12:49 GMT
#2284
MVP 2-0'd lgd lol, so much for the liquid lgd rematch
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
March 02 2016 12:49 GMT
#2285
find myself rather watching 'dead game' sc2 over this clown town
are they lost forever?
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51458 Posts
March 02 2016 12:51 GMT
#2286
Just a thought but why not move the IG vs VP game ahead of the CoL vs Team Spirit whilst we track down the missing keyboard.
The brains at this major is hurting me
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 02 2016 12:51 GMT
#2287
i'm glad i've barely watched this travesty
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44071 Posts
March 02 2016 12:51 GMT
#2288
On March 02 2016 21:49 icystorage wrote:
MVP 2-0'd lgd lol, so much for the liquid lgd rematch

well at least we get a match between

team liquid and what team liquid loves "the koreans"
this is a quote
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 12:52:25
March 02 2016 12:51 GMT
#2289
Not sure if you guys know this but i believe the venue closes at 10pm

I will laugh my face off if a game ends up being interrupted because of that

Edit: that means one hour to go i think
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
March 02 2016 12:51 GMT
#2290
We also need to update the LD calendar.
VP/VG was supposed to start at 10 am CEST
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
yookstah
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia655 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 12:53:13
March 02 2016 12:52 GMT
#2291


seriously? lmfao

I was hoping for a tournament that worked well for my timezone. If this one ran on schedule, it would have!

The humanity =[
"I'm saying that you are all the time aggressive. I say to you choose situations to be aggressive and not aggressive. I'm talking it" - Cooller
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44071 Posts
March 02 2016 12:53 GMT
#2292
On March 02 2016 21:49 yotis wrote:
find myself rather watching 'dead game' sc2 over this clown town

why watch that IEM

when there's the CSGO IEM with all the top teams
this is a quote
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
March 02 2016 12:53 GMT
#2293
what a joke of a tournament
hell is other people
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
March 02 2016 12:54 GMT
#2294
I feel like if you tried to script this abortion of a tournament into a movie everyone would tell you you're full of shit, it's too fake.
LiquidDota Staff
LethalBacon
Profile Joined June 2015
Spain355 Posts
March 02 2016 12:54 GMT
#2295
Just came home and Alliance lost vs Liquid? What happenned? nooooo!!!
omfg we lost
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
March 02 2016 12:55 GMT
#2296
So why did they skip over VP/VG? Or rather, why can't they have other match play while waiting for keyboard problem to be "resolved"?
yotis
Profile Joined September 2011
Czech Republic652 Posts
March 02 2016 12:56 GMT
#2297
On March 02 2016 21:53 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 21:49 yotis wrote:
find myself rather watching 'dead game' sc2 over this clown town

why watch that IEM

when there's the CSGO IEM with all the top teams


watching GSL (tastosis shenanigans)
are they lost forever?
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
March 02 2016 12:56 GMT
#2298
On March 02 2016 21:54 OuchyDathurts wrote:
I feel like if you tried to script this abortion of a tournament into a movie everyone would tell you you're full of shit, it's too fake.

You meant abomination, right? :o
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19343 Posts
March 02 2016 12:56 GMT
#2299
On March 02 2016 21:54 LethalBacon wrote:
Just came home and Alliance lost vs Liquid? What happenned? nooooo!!!

Alliance =/= Back
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
March 02 2016 12:57 GMT
#2300
Oh my god I went to bed after Alliance lost, and I've been out in town taking care of errands since waking up, AND GAMES ARE STILL GOING???
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
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