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Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 29 2016 09:29 GMT
#461
i think misery was playing like they already made descision to kick him after this LAN ..that smoke under wards and still get caught play
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 29 2016 09:29 GMT
#462
On January 29 2016 18:25 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Where to now for Secret? This roster had good performances at one point, but they have been spiraling down.

no results after the patch. And EE drafting :-)
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 29 2016 09:30 GMT
#463
On January 29 2016 18:29 Kamisamanachi wrote:
i think misery was playing like they already made descision to kick him after this LAN ..that smoke under wards and still get caught play

they didnt smoke under a ward
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
Super_Style
Profile Joined February 2015
296 Posts
January 29 2016 09:30 GMT
#464
Secrets supports have been absolutely awful this game, like 0 impact, puppy had a single glimpse/static storm in 43 mins and pld didnt use a single telekinesis. Now lets compare that to the newbee pair...
Seems like secret live and die by w33s performance, of him alone creating enough space for envy to carry after like 40-50 mins. The support pair just feeds and rolls over, they are not a good combo and they need one aggressive support.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
January 29 2016 09:30 GMT
#465
On January 29 2016 18:29 Nyan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 18:25 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Where to now for Secret? This roster had good performances at one point, but they have been spiraling down.

no results after the patch. And EE drafting :-)

It was Puppey drafting that last game.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
January 29 2016 09:30 GMT
#466
On January 29 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 18:26 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On January 29 2016 18:24 goody153 wrote:
they should disband

losing to 1 position naix is embarrassing

Is that a new meme or something?

I don't really get this "they have lost to X, they are really bad" comments...

Yeah it's a meme but a different meme from that meme

let me explain to you the context. Naix is considered as a bad hero (of course until the change of his ultimate) . It's so bad in most situations that if you lost it you should just quit dota

(of course it's a pun .. naix is obviously working situational pick)
Maybe you should consider what you say, and apply it to correct your first statement.
LiangHao
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
January 29 2016 09:30 GMT
#467
On January 29 2016 18:29 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:
On January 29 2016 18:26 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On January 29 2016 18:24 goody153 wrote:
they should disband

losing to 1 position naix is embarrassing

Is that a new meme or something?

I don't really get this "they have lost to X, they are really bad" comments...

Yeah it's a meme but a different meme from that meme

let me explain to you the context. Naix is considered as a bad hero (of course until the change of his ultimate) . It's so bad in most situations that if you lost it you should just quit dota

(of course it's a pun .. naix is obviously working situational pick)

Oh ok, I thought that some of you are actually serious(I mean there probably are some people that really think this).

Yeah i should really add some "sarcasm" note next time or maybe a smiley lol
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 29 2016 09:31 GMT
#468
Secret's draft was way harder to execute and leaves smaller margin of error.
WriterXiao8~~
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 29 2016 09:31 GMT
#469
On January 29 2016 18:29 Kamisamanachi wrote:
i think misery was playing like they already made descision to kick him after this LAN ..that smoke under wards and still get caught play


can't kick him yet... secret are playing in the majors.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 29 2016 09:32 GMT
#470
On January 29 2016 18:29 Kipsate wrote:
Despite all the fun we made of the Lifestealer, Newbee's draft is far superior in teamfight, they have far more control and damage. Earth Spirit didn't snowball out of control and thus was just as effective as p much ES support. The Naix allowed them to fight earlier then normal(which led to like 2-3 Roshans). Secret had to find continious pickoffs with LC because they would lose h2h teamfights. a lategame TB would be able to deal with any of the heroes from Newbee but not all together, esp when the other 4 heroes on Newbee scale way better then any of the respective heroes on the Secret side.

Lifestealer also itimized 100% correctly, the AC/Deso made it so they were able to break high ground quite comfortably, quickly and safely with Rage LS, Aegis and DP ultimate.

i also think the lifestealer is a very nice choice vs an ES core because you have rage and you dont need to wait for a bkb
FTD
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
January 29 2016 09:32 GMT
#471
Secret's supports do need to improve. And Puppey needs to play Enchantress again.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
January 29 2016 09:32 GMT
#472
On January 29 2016 18:28 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 18:27 CxWiLL wrote:
On January 29 2016 18:25 Azarkon wrote:
How do you allow a team to win with Naix, and a 2014 Naix at that.

naix was a TB counter from his very first release back in 2009.


How exactly does he do that again?

dunno
a terrible TB, maybe?
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
January 29 2016 09:32 GMT
#473
On January 29 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:
so many teams are back

newbee is back
alliance is back
c9 is back

you haven't mention the best one

CHINA IS BACK !!!

so far...
-Terran-
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 29 2016 09:33 GMT
#474
On January 29 2016 18:32 CxWiLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 18:28 Azarkon wrote:
On January 29 2016 18:27 CxWiLL wrote:
On January 29 2016 18:25 Azarkon wrote:
How do you allow a team to win with Naix, and a 2014 Naix at that.

naix was a TB counter from his very first release back in 2009.


How exactly does he do that again?

dunno
a terrible TB, maybe?


yeah a TB with dirt hp because bought blink and diffusal
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44134 Posts
January 29 2016 09:34 GMT
#475
On January 29 2016 18:32 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:
so many teams are back

newbee is back
alliance is back
c9 is back

you haven't mention the best one

CHINA IS BACK !!!

so far...

fuck

oh yeah ! but i'm sure azarkon is just gonna power up whoever western team is left like a protagonist in a fictional action story just like TI5
this is a quote
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 29 2016 09:34 GMT
#476
Also the fact that they were able to Jungle the LS(and the LS does that quite fast too), enabling the Zeus to get levels and farms which turned him into a semi-core/monster at the later stages of the game.
WriterXiao8~~
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 09:36:45
January 29 2016 09:35 GMT
#477
On January 29 2016 18:29 Kipsate wrote:
Despite all the fun we made of the Lifestealer, Newbee's draft is far superior in teamfight, they have far more control and damage. Earth Spirit didn't snowball out of control and thus was just as effective as p much ES support. The Naix allowed them to fight earlier then normal(which led to like 2-3 Roshans). Secret had to find continious pickoffs with LC because they would lose h2h teamfights. a lategame TB would be able to deal with any of the heroes from Newbee but not all together, esp when the other 4 heroes on Newbee scale way better then any of the respective heroes on the Secret side.

Lifestealer also itimized 100% correctly, the AC/Deso made it so they were able to break high ground quite comfortably, quickly and safely with Rage LS, Aegis and DP ultimate.
You just didn't understand why he was picked, and I told you. And now you are perhaps all the wiser.
LiangHao
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 29 2016 09:36 GMT
#478
giving lane to zeus seems like such a solid idea .yesterday it was during one of the VG games where burning freed his lane for some time for fy to farm and he got something like 9 ins blink dagger on lion..giving farm to one of your supports which can scale from early to mid games seems super efficient
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 09:41:50
January 29 2016 09:38 GMT
#479
Well, it's obvious the Naix was picked to shut down the other heroes of Secret, rather than the Terrorblade. He basically killed all the supports without them being able to do anything, due to both supports having no answer to Naix until ghost, and they never made it. The faceless void was a bigger issue that game to Secret's strategy, because they could not initiate into him.

Even still, Secret wasn't even behind until they started taking stupid fights. Had they went to late game with those heroes, and had ghost, and had a farmed EternalEnvy instead of one that built stupid items, they'd have ran over Naix.
Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
January 29 2016 09:42 GMT
#480
On January 29 2016 18:38 Azarkon wrote:
Well, it's obvious the Naix was picked to shut down the other heroes of Secret, rather than the Terrorblade. He basically killed all the supports without them being able to do anything, due to both supports having no answer to Naix until ghost, and they never made it. The void was a bigger issue that game to Secret's strategy, because they could not initiate into him.

Even still, Secret wasn't even behind until they started taking stupid fights. Had they went to late game with those heroes, and had ghost, and had a farmed EternalEnvy instead of one that built stupid items, they'd have ran over Naix.
Magic damage hurts while in ghost.
LiangHao
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