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HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 17 2016 11:06 GMT
#281
LD/Chen sounds obvious
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 17 2016 11:07 GMT
#282
I was certain that EG would pick LD if they dont ban him but guess they have a different plan ... or not really.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 17 2016 11:08 GMT
#283
morphlingwouldve been ok for arteezy too actually

rtz should rly brush up on his morf
posting on liquid sites in current year
Habitus
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom120 Posts
January 17 2016 11:08 GMT
#284
On January 17 2016 20:04 Danzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 20:01 sunrazgriz wrote:
guys, the draft is even or there is an outdraft ?


Idk if it was outdraft and more of just outplay in the lane stages of the game and Alliance support rotations. Sure they shut down bulldog Nature Prophet, but at the cost of first blood on Dark Seer and Sumail losing mid and dying to rotations.


If anything it was alliance outdrafted. All eg had to do was not lose laning really hard and then they were likely have a better teamfight and alliance would be on a clock.

Eg just lost hard, even harder than they needed to for alliance to carry the advantage to a win later.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 17 2016 11:08 GMT
#285
On January 17 2016 20:05 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 20:03 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On January 17 2016 20:01 Kipsate wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:55 Azarkon wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:54 Terrorbladder wrote:
I tuned in the last 20 mins of this game so how did sumail lose mid to s4 puck?


Besides it being a nice match up, he had help.

Doesn't matter if he had help

giving up a solo kill is inexcuseable and and something that shouldn't happen

Sumail fucked up this game.

I didn't actually see the solo kill, but depending on what happened it's somewhat excusable. When you're extremely pressured mid you sometimes have to playrisky and really push it in order to not get crushed. Sometimes that ends up killing you and crushing you more.

Playing safely isn't always the best thing to do.

depends on the heroes that are being played, the pressure that was put on sumail also wasn't a BH camping him mid for the first 6 min. Qop has an escape mechanism and should never die in a 1v1 like that.

The pressure wasn't so much against QoP but for Puck, if that makes sense. Puck is 1,000% safe the entire laning phase and can do whatever he wants. That's a great deal of pressure in a normally even 1v1.

An escape mechanism is all well and good, but it depends on what actually happened. As I said, I didn't see it, but maybe Sumail tried to make a play with Blink or whatever, IDK.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
January 17 2016 11:09 GMT
#286
This is so stupid this isn't a BO5.
Getting too old for this..
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 17 2016 11:09 GMT
#287
WD seems like a pretty obvious good pick but if chen always has max creeps the stun will probably be more "wasted" on creeps than actually stun heroes.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 17 2016 11:09 GMT
#288
On January 17 2016 20:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
anyone who says luna was a fine pick is totally blind

the only way luna was fine was such that they picked it as like a pseudo alch with 044, because eclipse was gonna do nothing as long as bulldog had something to say about it

and luna isnt even particularly strong in the first place. she's a niche pick and this game was not her niche in any way.

I mean, she would be fine pick for the plan if EG would not lose other 2 lanes so fucking hard.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 17 2016 11:09 GMT
#289
EGM's Rubik please
The Real Power~
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 17 2016 11:10 GMT
#290
S4 Death Prophet surely
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
January 17 2016 11:10 GMT
#291
Universe shaker please.
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 17 2016 11:10 GMT
#292
Akke's chen please

oh wait
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
January 17 2016 11:10 GMT
#293
On January 17 2016 20:05 roMAD wrote:
bo3 finals are so anticlimatic


I agree. EG is a team that could come back from a 2 0 to a 3 2 win and today they wont have this possibility
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 11:11:00
January 17 2016 11:10 GMT
#294
On January 17 2016 20:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 20:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
anyone who says luna was a fine pick is totally blind

the only way luna was fine was such that they picked it as like a pseudo alch with 044, because eclipse was gonna do nothing as long as bulldog had something to say about it

and luna isnt even particularly strong in the first place. she's a niche pick and this game was not her niche in any way.

I mean, she would be fine pick for the plan if EG would not lose other 2 lanes so fucking hard.

"fine" is not fine when you require "near-optimal" in an "important grand finals series" with your last pick 1 position
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FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 17 2016 11:10 GMT
#295
On January 17 2016 20:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 20:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
anyone who says luna was a fine pick is totally blind

the only way luna was fine was such that they picked it as like a pseudo alch with 044, because eclipse was gonna do nothing as long as bulldog had something to say about it

and luna isnt even particularly strong in the first place. she's a niche pick and this game was not her niche in any way.

I mean, she would be fine pick for the plan if EG would not lose other 2 lanes so fucking hard.

But they lost the other lanes so hard in part because of the Luna pick!

IDK, could have just let Arteezy 1v1 anyway. Dunno if you can shut out a Prophet enough to ever warrant three heroes focusing on him all laning phase.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
January 17 2016 11:10 GMT
#296
bat taken,
puck , qop banned

what now s4 ?
6nnn
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
January 17 2016 11:11 GMT
#297
NOO EG not the Zeus omg we lost lmao
Getting too old for this..
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 17 2016 11:11 GMT
#298
On January 17 2016 20:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 20:09 lolfail9001 wrote:
On January 17 2016 20:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
anyone who says luna was a fine pick is totally blind

the only way luna was fine was such that they picked it as like a pseudo alch with 044, because eclipse was gonna do nothing as long as bulldog had something to say about it

and luna isnt even particularly strong in the first place. she's a niche pick and this game was not her niche in any way.

I mean, she would be fine pick for the plan if EG would not lose other 2 lanes so fucking hard.

"fine" is not fine when you require "near-optimal" in an "important grand finals series"

Name me a carry that would do fine in circumstances like that.

Even morph would not fly at all (hello, no cast point no-target silence).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 17 2016 11:12 GMT
#299
On January 17 2016 20:10 sunrazgriz wrote:
bat taken,
puck , qop banned

what now s4 ?


Lina?
The Real Power~
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
January 17 2016 11:12 GMT
#300
Ok, EG are going full retard, RIP.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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