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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 17 2016 10:56 GMT
#261
On January 17 2016 19:55 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 19:54 sunrazgriz wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:52 Dysisa wrote:
Picking Luna for RTZ was definitely a mistake, but I wonder what carry they should have picked for him instead?

TA ?

Yeah, i just imagined TA stuck in sprout.

Good hero, kek.

If only there was a way to leave Sprout immediately...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
HammerKick
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
France6190 Posts
January 17 2016 10:56 GMT
#262
On January 17 2016 19:55 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 19:53 HammerKick wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:52 Danzo wrote:
Man is Qop heavy nerf or did Sumail just choke hard? He rarely loses mid that hard.


s4 is too good

Do not dismiss akke. Him and EGM had some huge rotations early.


I never said that s4 was the only mvp this game : )
Well, it's high noon somewhere in the world
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 17 2016 10:56 GMT
#263
s4 outplayed sumail soo hard ..and that luna pick,rofl...good stuff from alliance..

this patch feels like supports keeping their safe lane alive or rotating to kill enemy safe lane or offlane and not mid...this is reverse of last patch
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
Habitus
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom120 Posts
January 17 2016 10:56 GMT
#264
Iirc harassed hard early then got a solo kill. Sumail nearly died again but got a kill on the dazzle dive (3 hp). After that return to base puck was too far ahead for him to lane easily
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
January 17 2016 10:58 GMT
#265
Like it's easy to win against S4's Puck, he's absolutely a beast with that hero
The Real Power~
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
January 17 2016 10:58 GMT
#266


Just one more
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
January 17 2016 10:58 GMT
#267
If they have to pick one or another, I'd say wisp was more ban-worthy than furion.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 17 2016 10:59 GMT
#268
On January 17 2016 19:56 Kamisamanachi wrote:
s4 outplayed sumail soo hard ..and that luna pick,rofl...good stuff from alliance..

this patch feels like supports keeping their safe lane alive or rotating to kill enemy safe lane or offlane and not mid...this is reverse of last patch

I don't think many NP players outside of bulldog would have got so much from this lane. This T1 was up during so long and served as a bait for so many fights.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 11:01:12
January 17 2016 11:00 GMT
#269
On January 17 2016 19:58 Elurie wrote:
If they have to pick one or another, I'd say wisp was more ban-worthy than furion.

definitely but if bulldog needs to he will surely get his farm and pressure the whole map.
one very important aspect is also like he always scouts with his treants and arguably always the right spot to the right time.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 17 2016 11:01 GMT
#270
On January 17 2016 19:55 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 19:54 Terrorbladder wrote:
I tuned in the last 20 mins of this game so how did sumail lose mid to s4 puck?


Besides it being a nice match up, he had help.

Doesn't matter if he had help

giving up a solo kill is inexcuseable and and something that shouldn't happen

Sumail fucked up this game.
WriterXiao8~~
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
January 17 2016 11:01 GMT
#271
guys, the draft is even or there is an outdraft ?
6nnn
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 17 2016 11:03 GMT
#272
On January 17 2016 20:01 sunrazgriz wrote:
guys, the draft is even or there is an outdraft ?

imo it was an outdraft in the sense that alliance had more "signature" heroes
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 11:04:08
January 17 2016 11:03 GMT
#273
On January 17 2016 20:01 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 19:55 Azarkon wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:54 Terrorbladder wrote:
I tuned in the last 20 mins of this game so how did sumail lose mid to s4 puck?


Besides it being a nice match up, he had help.

Doesn't matter if he had help

giving up a solo kill is inexcuseable and and something that shouldn't happen

Sumail fucked up this game.

I didn't actually see the solo kill, but depending on what happened it's somewhat excusable. When you're extremely pressured mid you sometimes have to playrisky and really push it in order to not get crushed. Sometimes that ends up killing you and crushing you more.

Playing safely isn't always the best thing to do.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
January 17 2016 11:04 GMT
#274
On January 17 2016 20:01 sunrazgriz wrote:
guys, the draft is even or there is an outdraft ?


Idk if it was outdraft and more of just outplay in the lane stages of the game and Alliance support rotations. Sure they shut down bulldog Nature Prophet, but at the cost of first blood on Dark Seer and Sumail losing mid and dying to rotations.
Getting too old for this..
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
January 17 2016 11:05 GMT
#275
On January 17 2016 20:03 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 20:01 Kipsate wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:55 Azarkon wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:54 Terrorbladder wrote:
I tuned in the last 20 mins of this game so how did sumail lose mid to s4 puck?


Besides it being a nice match up, he had help.

Doesn't matter if he had help

giving up a solo kill is inexcuseable and and something that shouldn't happen

Sumail fucked up this game.

I didn't actually see the solo kill, but depending on what happened it's somewhat excusable. When you're extremely pressured mid you sometimes have to playrisky and really push it in order to not get crushed. Sometimes that ends up killing you and crushing you more.

Playing safely isn't always the best thing to do.


And we're talking about Sumail here who is known to never play safe in his mid lane.
Getting too old for this..
roMAD
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Russia2355 Posts
January 17 2016 11:05 GMT
#276
bo3 finals are so anticlimatic
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 17 2016 11:05 GMT
#277
On January 17 2016 20:03 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 20:01 Kipsate wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:55 Azarkon wrote:
On January 17 2016 19:54 Terrorbladder wrote:
I tuned in the last 20 mins of this game so how did sumail lose mid to s4 puck?


Besides it being a nice match up, he had help.

Doesn't matter if he had help

giving up a solo kill is inexcuseable and and something that shouldn't happen

Sumail fucked up this game.

I didn't actually see the solo kill, but depending on what happened it's somewhat excusable. When you're extremely pressured mid you sometimes have to playrisky and really push it in order to not get crushed. Sometimes that ends up killing you and crushing you more.

Playing safely isn't always the best thing to do.

depends on the heroes that are being played, the pressure that was put on sumail also wasn't a BH camping him mid for the first 6 min. Qop has an escape mechanism and should never die in a 1v1 like that.
WriterXiao8~~
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 17 2016 11:05 GMT
#278
anyone who says luna was a fine pick is totally blind

the only way luna was fine was such that they picked it as like a pseudo alch with 044, because eclipse was gonna do nothing as long as bulldog had something to say about it

and luna isnt even particularly strong in the first place. she's a niche pick and this game was not her niche in any way.
posting on liquid sites in current year
Sloke
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany2433 Posts
January 17 2016 11:06 GMT
#279
great to ban void. EG surely hoped the get the super solid pick for universe but not this time.
Land of Confusion - Genesis/Disturbed/Stella Starlight Trio
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-17 11:06:26
January 17 2016 11:06 GMT
#280
NP+Io ban . let's get CHEN AND LD BOYS
The Real Power~
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