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On January 16 2016 18:28 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 18:26 nojok wrote:On January 16 2016 18:24 goody153 wrote:On January 16 2016 18:22 nojok wrote:On January 16 2016 18:21 goody153 wrote:On January 16 2016 18:20 Furikawari wrote:
Enigma not a fear hero. No it is a fear hero it's just that they let it get too late, it's hard to beat TA+morphling He went full support enigma which is not that good when the other team lacks of ways to disable his BH. Focusing a bit more on his ulti could have helped imo. i don;t understand what you are talking about low cooldown stun from morphling, NS, wd is definetely not "lack of ways to disable his BH" TA is solely the only one who didn't have something to cancel BH No BKB piercing stuff like silencer/lich ulti, venge swap etc hmm i'm not conviced that he solely needed to go "focus more on his ulti" why he's a bad enigma player unless this is his only enigma then he's bad but it's not all the other games where ok also a bkb-dagger rushing enigma is pretty bad .. you are making yourself ult reliant cannot go out alone and if you can't hit the ult if lgd plays smart then it's just a waste
Pipe did little to nothing, greaves was not that good either imo, mek before bkb and dagger was enough imo.
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Who are the two panelists that aren't Sheever or Godz?
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On January 16 2016 18:31 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 18:28 lolnoty wrote:On January 16 2016 18:26 Azarkon wrote:On January 16 2016 18:24 lolnoty wrote:On January 16 2016 18:22 Azarkon wrote:
No, the bigger issue that game was actually the amount of the map PPD's team actually saw, due to the night pick. That last fight was completely decided by that. LGD saw them, they didn't see LGD, instant jump into everyone dead. The map vision is only relevant with the threat (morph) that can kill any hero. If not for that the nghtstalker's vision denial doesn't matter There are a lot of heroes that are able to kill any hero. morphling kills without risk or sacrifice to his positioning/map presence. Any other less mobile hero would have been caught by EG half a dozen times But that's not what decided the game. The fight that decided the game was the fight at bottom where they had to buy back three heroes, and the final fight. Both of those fights were not won because of morphling killed a hero on another side of the map. Regardless, I'm not saying you're wrong about the pick working well with morphling. Indeed, I'd say that it works very well in that it forces teams to stick together during night, which prevents them from getting a lot of farm against teams that split.
I don't know why you are talking about winning fights and relating that to what I'm saying. I said Nightstalker's vision is only relevant because of morphling. There's a million moments before that fight, includign the draft, that had morphling at the heart of why they are happening.
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On January 16 2016 18:33 Aldehyde wrote:
Who are the two panelists that aren't Sheever or Godz?
kpop and scantzor
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LGD had a really solid draft which they executed better. Nightstalker vision made most of the cute tricks EG wanted to pull in the lategame irrelevant, TA and Morph are a core pairing that's really tough to surpass, and WD and Tide just offer a lot of control. Meanwhile, EG had a set of heroes with some good early timings, but didn't push it hard enough and didn't succeed in securing critical advantages over the extremely greedy LGD cores. They could have won it late even so, as the few teamfight wins that they pulled off show us, but they were always at a disadvantage in getting those fights to happen. They would have had to be way higher skill than LGD to win in the lategame, and LGD is simply too strong of a team to rely on something like that.
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On January 16 2016 18:33 lolnoty wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 18:31 Azarkon wrote:On January 16 2016 18:28 lolnoty wrote:On January 16 2016 18:26 Azarkon wrote:On January 16 2016 18:24 lolnoty wrote:On January 16 2016 18:22 Azarkon wrote:
No, the bigger issue that game was actually the amount of the map PPD's team actually saw, due to the night pick. That last fight was completely decided by that. LGD saw them, they didn't see LGD, instant jump into everyone dead. The map vision is only relevant with the threat (morph) that can kill any hero. If not for that the nghtstalker's vision denial doesn't matter There are a lot of heroes that are able to kill any hero. morphling kills without risk or sacrifice to his positioning/map presence. Any other less mobile hero would have been caught by EG half a dozen times But that's not what decided the game. The fight that decided the game was the fight at bottom where they had to buy back three heroes, and the final fight. Both of those fights were not won because of morphling killed a hero on another side of the map. Regardless, I'm not saying you're wrong about the pick working well with morphling. Indeed, I'd say that it works very well in that it forces teams to stick together during night, which prevents them from getting a lot of farm against teams that split. I don't know why you are talking about winning fights and relating that to what I'm saying. I said Nightstalker's vision is only relevant because of morphling. There's a million moments before that fight, includign the draft, that had morphling at the heart of why they are happening.
Night is relevant with many different strategies, not just this one.
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On January 16 2016 18:33 Aldehyde wrote:
Who are the two panelists that aren't Sheever or Godz?
Scan and kpop i think.
Kpop usually does starladder with sheever iirc and often stats man for bts
Not seen scan or whatever he is called before.
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On January 16 2016 18:34 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 18:33 Aldehyde wrote:
Who are the two panelists that aren't Sheever or Godz? kpop and scantzor
Thanks. Never heard of scantzor before.
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Haha LGD picks the bad hero this time.
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EG gave up their standard brood ban for the morph
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Univoid and LGD got the lightning dwarf of many losses. WP EG.
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On January 16 2016 18:26 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 18:21 Furikawari wrote:On January 16 2016 18:20 Danzo wrote:
Has Zeus won a game this entire tournament? Not to my knowledge and I do think he is underwhelming despite being picked a lot. 4-8 vega, secret, lgd have won with him. lgd games were against weak teams and vegas win was an extraordinary throw
Thanks for doing the job I'm such a lazy guy 
So yeah as I thought, he is underwhelming, so sad as I like this hero a lot  I'm surprise secret won with him, I'll have to check this game.
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sheever is fucking nerding out about the lore
I love it
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very shaky, but glad LGD made one game, must be because i am watching, chanelling my LGD with cereal
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Ember still has a purple background!
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EPT
