EPT[Starladder] Season 13 LAN Finals Playoffs Day 2 - Page 10
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Azarkon
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Daray
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sunrazgriz
Vatican City State1573 Posts
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:21 traumatism wrote: I think it came down to Black Holes not being good enough u cant, they have balanar vision and negative vision | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:21 goody153 wrote: No it is a fear hero it's just that they let it get too late, it's hard to beat TA+morphling He went full support enigma which is not that good when the other team lacks of ways to disable his BH. Focusing a bit more on his ulti could have helped imo. | ||
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bluzi
4703 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:21 Voronoff wrote: That game took a very long time for how much LGD won their lanes. EG played inside their base for the last 20 min or so , but Zeus is no match for a TA as a core , TA bursts better & farms better and a BKB hero which destroys Zeus life , really nice draft from LGD and good execute , EG had their moments but they needed to execute to prefection to win this game which is hard to do with no vision vs that NS. | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:20 Azarkon wrote: Morphling didn't do shit in that last fight. What are people even talking about. That was one big hit into two dead no buy back, both very important heroes. there's a lot of time where the heroes aren't fighting. morph dictated map control and pigeonholed EG's movements. | ||
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Snakesneaks
Italy2652 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:22 Azarkon wrote: No, the bigger issue that game was actually the amount of the map PPD's team actually saw, due to the night pick. That last fight was completely decided by that. LGD saw them, they didn't see LGD, instant jump into everyone dead. The map vision is only relevant with the threat (morph) that can kill any hero. If not for that the nghtstalker's vision denial doesn't matter | ||
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goody153
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On January 16 2016 18:22 nojok wrote: He went full support enigma which is not that good when the other team lacks of ways to disable his BH. Focusing a bit more on his ulti could have helped imo. i don;t understand what you are talking about low cooldown stun from morphling, NS, wd is definetely not "lack of ways to disable his BH" TA is solely the only one who didn't have something to cancel BH | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:22 Azarkon wrote: No, the bigger issue that game was actually the amount of the map PPD's team actually saw, due to the night pick. That last fight was completely decided by that. LGD saw them, they didn't see LGD, instant jump into everyone dead. Do you have problems with typing EG or something? It's always "the Americans" or "PPD's team". | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:22 rabidch wrote: LGD played really poorly. Like realllly poorly. I don't think people realize how badly they positioned in every teamfight that ET "won" it. You think LGD even knows what they did/are doing wrong? They've been playing this way for a long time. | ||
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Danzo
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:24 lolnoty wrote: The map vision is only relevant with the threat (morph) that can kill any hero. If not for that the nghtstalker's vision denial doesn't matter There are a lot of heroes that are able to kill any hero. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:24 goody153 wrote: i don;t understand what you are talking about low cooldown stun from morphling, NS, wd is definetely not "lack of ways to disable his BH" TA is solely the only one who didn't have something to cancel BH No BKB piercing stuff like silencer/lich ulti, venge swap etc | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:21 Furikawari wrote: Not to my knowledge and I do think he is underwhelming despite being picked a lot. 4-8 vega, secret, lgd have won with him. lgd games were against weak teams and vegas win was an extraordinary throw | ||
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uriel-
Singapore1867 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:24 Elurie wrote: Do you have problems with typing EG or something? It's always "the Americans" or "PPD's team". I think PPD is his father. | ||
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goody153
44260 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:26 nojok wrote: No BKB piercing stuff like silencer/lich ulti, venge swap etc hmm i'm not conviced that he solely needed to go "focus more on his ulti" why he's a bad enigma player unless this is his only enigma then he's bad but it's not all the other games where ok also a bkb-dagger rushing enigma is pretty bad .. you are making yourself ult reliant cannot go out alone and if you can't hit the ult if lgd plays smart then it's just a waste you are assuming that lgd will just clump all the time conveniently for you to blackhole if that's how you think that would work if he went dagger-bkb rush | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:26 Azarkon wrote: There are a lot of heroes that are able to kill any hero. morphling kills without risk or sacrifice to his positioning/map presence. Any other less mobile hero would have been caught by EG half a dozen times | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On January 16 2016 18:28 lolnoty wrote: morphling kills without risk or sacrifice to his positioning/map presence. Any other less mobile hero would have been caught by EG half a dozen times But that's not what decided the game. The fight that decided the game was the fight at bottom where they had to buy back three heroes, and the final fight. Both of those fights were not won because morphling killed a hero on another side of the map. Regardless, I'm not saying you're wrong about the pick working well with morphling. Indeed, I'd say that it works very well in that it forces teams to stick together during night, which prevents them from getting a lot of farm against teams that split. | ||
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