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Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
January 15 2016 16:48 GMT
#961
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw

he got roared by bulldog
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2016 16:48 GMT
#962
On January 16 2016 01:45 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:43 Kreb wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote:
Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway.

yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has.

Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much

There are really good broodplayers like that has impact

zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much

I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh.


That build >>> Orchid build.

You put so much pressure because you burst down heroes, or at least chase them out of the jungle/lane. Why bother right clicking.

Then when you're big, you 1 shot supports, or bring cores to half HP.

Or even just the harass by itself... there was some liquid game with a brood that ended up selling something and bought a dagon instead iirc and just bursting a core to 50% when they want to push is already enough to be so much trouble lol (assuming you don't have easy heal like heart / dazzle / whatever)
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
January 15 2016 16:48 GMT
#963
On January 16 2016 01:47 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw

yeah lets talk about envy not misery

misery did nothing wrong hehe

fuck misery man, he wasn't even in the game. that's no reason for envy to do what he did tho.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
ForTheDr3am
Profile Joined November 2010
842 Posts
January 15 2016 16:48 GMT
#964
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw


That was LD's Savage roar.
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
January 15 2016 16:49 GMT
#965
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw


? don't you know how lone druid works. educate yourself
hell is other people
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
January 15 2016 16:49 GMT
#966
On January 16 2016 01:48 Verniy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw

he got roared by bulldog

the roar doesn't make run that far away
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 15 2016 16:49 GMT
#967
On January 16 2016 01:48 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:47 goody153 wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw

yeah lets talk about envy not misery

misery did nothing wrong hehe

fuck misery man, he wasn't even in the game. that's no reason for envy to do what he did tho.


dude there is a spell that makes you run to your base no ?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
January 15 2016 16:49 GMT
#968
On January 16 2016 01:48 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:47 goody153 wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw

yeah lets talk about envy not misery

misery did nothing wrong hehe

fuck misery man, he wasn't even in the game. that's no reason for envy to do what he did tho.

so did puppey cliffing envy

and w33ha jumping too soon

yeah i know you dislike envy man but the others didn't really do well
this is a quote
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 15 2016 16:49 GMT
#969
I still can't get over how worthless Misery was that game. The whole game.

Pretty sure all he contributed was making supports buy some Sentries early on.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
January 15 2016 16:50 GMT
#970
yo stfu with the roar watch how deep he went into and past the whole alliance team, the roar sends you like half that distance at most
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
January 15 2016 16:50 GMT
#971
On January 16 2016 01:49 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I still can't get over how worthless Misery was that game. The whole game.

Pretty sure all he contributed was making supports buy some Sentries early on.


misery's always been the weakest link on secret imo
hell is other people
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 15 2016 16:51 GMT
#972
On January 16 2016 01:47 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:45 DucK- wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:43 Kreb wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote:
Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway.

yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has.

Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much

There are really good broodplayers like that has impact

zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much

I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh.


That build >>> Orchid build.

You put so much pressure because you burst down heroes, or at least chase them out of the jungle/lane. Why bother right clicking.

Then when you're big, you 1 shot supports, or bring cores to half HP.


When you get a great start and get the orchid you control the enemy jungle compelety , picking off solo defenders or silencing and running away from ganks , its a useful item on the hero when you are in the lane doing your thing, it makes you safe as well as being able to pressure it most def has it merits


Yea I don't deny that. Orchid is good when the enemy loses 2+ lanes, because it means all their heroes are afraid of you with their inferior networth. This wasn't the game though, especially when the main hero you want to control has already revealed an Eul prior to your Orchid purchase.
Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
January 15 2016 16:51 GMT
#973
In the fight before the Rosh fight where they first killed Envy, he went alone into 3 heroes while his whole team was on a different place fighting the other 2 heroes (and they couldn't even kill the QoP because Bat didn't wait until VS died for the Lasso).

That was the first mistake Secret made
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 15 2016 16:51 GMT
#974
i dont think anyone deserved that game based on plays ..alliance won it anyways...but let's go game 3 and expect some good plays by both teams
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 15 2016 16:52 GMT
#975
On January 16 2016 01:50 Kabras wrote:
yo stfu with the roar watch how deep he went into and past the whole alliance team, the roar sends you like half that distance at most


I think with BKB on flak and rocket barrage he wanted to do the most dmg he could and relying on the oracle as well , he died because the rest of his team did nothing at all
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 15 2016 16:52 GMT
#976
On January 16 2016 01:50 Kabras wrote:
yo stfu with the roar watch how deep he went into and past the whole alliance team, the roar sends you like half that distance at most

If you're talking about what I'm thinking of, he was already past one hero, possibly two or three.

At that stage, you can't back off.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
January 15 2016 16:52 GMT
#977
next map is dota2 guys
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 16:52:57
January 15 2016 16:52 GMT
#978
On January 16 2016 01:51 Kamisamanachi wrote:
i dont think anyone deserved that game based on plays ..alliance won it anyways...but let's go game 3 and expect some good plays by both teams

Oh yeah they did. They capitalized with that chain smokes and rotations in the map to deepen the lead after the amazing secret rosh fight.
this is a quote
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9574 Posts
January 15 2016 16:52 GMT
#979
Puppers CHEN \o/
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 15 2016 16:53 GMT
#980
On January 16 2016 01:47 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:46 DucK- wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:44 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I'd like to point out that the draft was such that unless Secret had a massive lead, if this went late, Alliance was just going to out-scale them. And it went late enough for that to happen.


Nah Gyro had a 6k lead, which could have been a 12k lead easily.


But the problem is that you don't have anything to fall back on if it turns into a 3k lead over 3 enemy cores instead.


You shouldn't be intending to fall back on anything. You lose if your lead gets eroded. But if you have a good lead like what secret had this game, they had a pretty strong timing.
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