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On January 16 2016 01:40 Acritter wrote: alliance didn't deserve to win that game
secret deserved to win it less
truly we live in an age of wonders whoever gets through gets slaughtered by Liquid. I'm fine with that o/
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GIVE US EE PA PLS FOR THE LAST GAME
COME ON Secret
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puppey should've just given bat to misery and picked w33 a core that can actually do damage
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On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote: Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway. yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has. Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much There are really good broodplayers like that has impact zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh.
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On January 16 2016 01:40 Acritter wrote: alliance didn't deserve to win that game
secret deserved to win it less
truly we live in an age of wonders who said that ? secret tilted that was an alliance win for sure lol
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I don't think 4-protect-1 is a viable strategy in this patch, not really no
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On January 16 2016 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 01:40 Acritter wrote: alliance didn't deserve to win that game
secret deserved to win it less
truly we live in an age of wonders whoever gets through gets slaughtered by Liquid. I'm fine with that o/ Ye seems very likely.
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On January 16 2016 01:43 wims80 wrote: I don't think 4-protect-1 is a viable strategy in this patch, not really no
Hasn't been for some time now, I don't know why it's still a thing.
Having two non-scaling cores seems like a liability no matter what they bring in the midgame
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On January 16 2016 01:43 wims80 wrote: I don't think 4-protect-1 is a viable strategy in this patch, not really no uhm either draft wasn't a 4p1
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I'd like to point out that the draft was such that unless Secret had a massive lead, if this went late, Alliance was just going to out-scale them. And it went late enough for that to happen.
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On January 16 2016 01:43 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote: Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway. yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has. Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much There are really good broodplayers like that has impact zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh.
That build >>> Orchid build.
You put so much pressure because you burst down heroes, or at least chase them out of the jungle/lane. Why bother right clicking.
Then when you're big, you 1 shot supports, or bring cores to half HP.
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Its going to be EE on Ember/AM/Naga for the last game , altough he had a 16k gyro when alliance top farmer at that point was 9k TB , so maybe it wasnt the problem he farms on that hero like a beast , but when push come to shove they will pick him a hero that can go around alone doing things.
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On January 16 2016 01:44 Taf the Ghost wrote: I'd like to point out that the draft was such that unless Secret had a massive lead, if this went late, Alliance was just going to out-scale them. And it went late enough for that to happen.
Nah Gyro had a 6k lead, which could have been a 12k lead easily.
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lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw
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That brood build was the thing which made that draft 4 p 1 for secret...but they couldnt even protect EE in fights ..that was just a pure no presence game from brood where she got 2 towers ,then built orchid for noone as a standard
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On January 16 2016 01:45 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 01:43 Kreb wrote:On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote: Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway. yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has. Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much There are really good broodplayers like that has impact zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh. That build >>> Orchid build. You put so much pressure because you burst down heroes, or at least chase them out of the jungle/lane. Why bother right clicking. Then when you're big, you 1 shot supports, or bring cores to half HP.
When you get a great start and get the orchid you control the enemy jungle compelety , picking off solo defenders or silencing and running away from ganks , its a useful item on the hero when you are in the lane doing your thing, it makes you safe as well as being able to pressure it most def has it merits
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On January 16 2016 01:43 goody153 wrote: GIVE US EE PA PLS FOR THE LAST GAME
COME ON Secret
I watched EE's stream when he played PA pubs. Holy shit the man is unbearable :D His attitude and the way he acts towards his teammates is hilarious.
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the game was unsatisfying but very unsurprising to say the least
secret line up was such that could be punished hard when a mistake happened
brood being useless in this patch is confirmed again though
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On January 16 2016 01:46 DucK- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 01:44 Taf the Ghost wrote: I'd like to point out that the draft was such that unless Secret had a massive lead, if this went late, Alliance was just going to out-scale them. And it went late enough for that to happen. Nah Gyro had a 6k lead, which could have been a 12k lead easily.
But the problem is that you don't have anything to fall back on if it turns into a 3k lead over 3 enemy cores instead.
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On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote: lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw yeah lets talk about envy not misery
misery did nothing wrong hehe
there was also the puppey cliffing yeah lets not talk about that too
there was also w33ha jumping too early yeah that too
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