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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2016 16:42 GMT
#941
On January 16 2016 01:40 Acritter wrote:
alliance didn't deserve to win that game

secret deserved to win it less

truly we live in an age of wonders

whoever gets through gets slaughtered by Liquid. I'm fine with that o/
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 16:43:13
January 15 2016 16:43 GMT
#942
GIVE US EE PA PLS FOR THE LAST GAME

COME ON Secret
this is a quote
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
January 15 2016 16:43 GMT
#943
puppey should've just given bat to misery and picked w33 a core that can actually do damage
hell is other people
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
January 15 2016 16:43 GMT
#944
On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote:
Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway.

yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has.

Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much

There are really good broodplayers like that has impact

zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much

I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
January 15 2016 16:43 GMT
#945
On January 16 2016 01:40 Acritter wrote:
alliance didn't deserve to win that game

secret deserved to win it less

truly we live in an age of wonders

who said that ? secret tilted that was an alliance win for sure lol
this is a quote
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
January 15 2016 16:43 GMT
#946
I don't think 4-protect-1 is a viable strategy in this patch, not really no
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
January 15 2016 16:44 GMT
#947
On January 16 2016 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:40 Acritter wrote:
alliance didn't deserve to win that game

secret deserved to win it less

truly we live in an age of wonders

whoever gets through gets slaughtered by Liquid. I'm fine with that o/

Ye seems very likely.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 15 2016 16:44 GMT
#948
On January 16 2016 01:43 wims80 wrote:
I don't think 4-protect-1 is a viable strategy in this patch, not really no


Hasn't been for some time now, I don't know why it's still a thing.

Having two non-scaling cores seems like a liability no matter what they bring in the midgame
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
January 15 2016 16:44 GMT
#949
On January 16 2016 01:43 wims80 wrote:
I don't think 4-protect-1 is a viable strategy in this patch, not really no

uhm either draft wasn't a 4p1
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
January 15 2016 16:44 GMT
#950
I'd like to point out that the draft was such that unless Secret had a massive lead, if this went late, Alliance was just going to out-scale them. And it went late enough for that to happen.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 15 2016 16:45 GMT
#951
On January 16 2016 01:43 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote:
Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway.

yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has.

Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much

There are really good broodplayers like that has impact

zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much

I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh.


That build >>> Orchid build.

You put so much pressure because you burst down heroes, or at least chase them out of the jungle/lane. Why bother right clicking.

Then when you're big, you 1 shot supports, or bring cores to half HP.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 15 2016 16:45 GMT
#952
Its going to be EE on Ember/AM/Naga for the last game , altough he had a 16k gyro when alliance top farmer at that point was 9k TB , so maybe it wasnt the problem he farms on that hero like a beast , but when push come to shove they will pick him a hero that can go around alone doing things.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 15 2016 16:46 GMT
#953
On January 16 2016 01:44 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I'd like to point out that the draft was such that unless Secret had a massive lead, if this went late, Alliance was just going to out-scale them. And it went late enough for that to happen.


Nah Gyro had a 6k lead, which could have been a 12k lead easily.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
January 15 2016 16:47 GMT
#954
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Kamisamanachi
Profile Joined April 2015
4665 Posts
January 15 2016 16:47 GMT
#955
That brood build was the thing which made that draft 4 p 1 for secret...but they couldnt even protect EE in fights ..that was just a pure no presence game from brood where she got 2 towers ,then built orchid for noone as a standard
fan of dream runs. orange ti3 , fnatic ti6 , wings ti6 , cdec ti5 !! B-god's anti mage , mushi's shadow fiend
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 15 2016 16:47 GMT
#956
On January 16 2016 01:45 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:43 Kreb wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:40 goody153 wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:39 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:38 Kreb wrote:
Standard brood game. Acquire10k gold lead, except 10-15k is stuck in a useless hero. So when important fights come around you lose anyway.

yeah I don't really like the hero either. Everytime MC on Liquid plays him he feels super useless and can't push no matter what gold he has.

Some seem to be able to do it and some not so much

There are really good broodplayers like that has impact

zai is one really good example, iceiceice when broodmother wasn't figured out too much

I totally wouldnt mind the return of dagon5 -> eblade brood. That shit felt waymore useful that orchid bkb or some necro shit build. The 800 magic damage is more than what these broods do. Not actually sure why that build went away at all tbh.


That build >>> Orchid build.

You put so much pressure because you burst down heroes, or at least chase them out of the jungle/lane. Why bother right clicking.

Then when you're big, you 1 shot supports, or bring cores to half HP.


When you get a great start and get the orchid you control the enemy jungle compelety , picking off solo defenders or silencing and running away from ganks , its a useful item on the hero when you are in the lane doing your thing, it makes you safe as well as being able to pressure it most def has it merits
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9574 Posts
January 15 2016 16:47 GMT
#957
On January 16 2016 01:43 goody153 wrote:
GIVE US EE PA PLS FOR THE LAST GAME

COME ON Secret


I watched EE's stream when he played PA pubs. Holy shit the man is unbearable :D His attitude and the way he acts towards his teammates is hilarious.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
January 15 2016 16:47 GMT
#958
the game was unsatisfying but very unsurprising to say the least

secret line up was such that could be punished hard when a mistake happened

brood being useless in this patch is confirmed again though
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 16:48:12
January 15 2016 16:47 GMT
#959
On January 16 2016 01:46 DucK- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:44 Taf the Ghost wrote:
I'd like to point out that the draft was such that unless Secret had a massive lead, if this went late, Alliance was just going to out-scale them. And it went late enough for that to happen.


Nah Gyro had a 6k lead, which could have been a 12k lead easily.


But the problem is that you don't have anything to fall back on if it turns into a 3k lead over 3 enemy cores instead.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 16:48:52
January 15 2016 16:47 GMT
#960
On January 16 2016 01:47 Kabras wrote:
lol that rosh fight replay, envy gets brought down from the cliff then runs alone behind the enemy team, through them. what the fuck, alrite that was the throw

yeah lets talk about envy not misery

misery did nothing wrong hehe

there was also the puppey cliffing yeah lets not talk about that too

there was also w33ha jumping too early yeah that too
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