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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
January 15 2016 15:36 GMT
#681
i can see puck working but offlane puck .. pls pick something useful for yourself s4 like batrider or TA
this is a quote
scoww
Profile Joined June 2012
595 Posts
January 15 2016 15:38 GMT
#682
On January 16 2016 00:32 Orome wrote:
I figured Alliance would know better than anyone how to draft a lineup like this, but I still don't understand where their damage is supposed to come from, especially against a dazzle. Bear can only do so much.

Like yeah Puppey looks like a god this game, but Secret's heroes die so slowly it's also really damn easy.

they were supposed to be miles ahead at ~20min and then just gg push with radiance on LD. but well, that didnt happen ...
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 15 2016 15:38 GMT
#683
That fight. Damn that was wp.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 15 2016 15:38 GMT
#684
those hp bars rofl
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 15 2016 15:38 GMT
#685
On January 16 2016 00:36 bluzi wrote:
please S4 , just let it go , puck isnt a hero anymore , i know he is close to your heart but please he does NOTHING .
puppey wrecked S4 in the draft.

puck was a fine pick, just executed terribly

secret had 0 catch for him early, he could have been used much more aggressively e.g. to blow up dazzle and set up for perfect slardar double stuns or at the very least threatening it while ld took towers

instead he was being played as a farming core
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
January 15 2016 15:38 GMT
#686
dota 2 analyst are so boring compared to csgo

such awkawrd
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
maximrobi
Profile Joined May 2015
Hungary347 Posts
January 15 2016 15:38 GMT
#687
Outdraft and outplay. That's the Team Secret I love watching :D
This game is about towers and the Throne, not kills and fancy play.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
January 15 2016 15:38 GMT
#688
On January 16 2016 00:32 Acritter wrote:
like the double blinks do nothing would be fine if secret had bad core scaling, but as good as bear is, it does not outscale ember+gyro+np

when is it okay to give abd bear? answer: when none of the other alliance players do anything


Part of the problem is that they can't push that hard to find something with the blinks because they're not even that strong. Like what does their fight look like at that point? Puck can blink combo, slardar can blink crush, then what? Who are they setting up to do damage? Rubick? Sacrificial Undying? Bear who didn't come to fights before radiance?

It's just awkward to draft Puck and 1 Slardar together like this. Both set up their teammates to do damage, but nobody on Alliance could really use that setup.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 15 2016 15:39 GMT
#689
I'm so hyped for ppy vs kky.
You better not ruin this secret! :p
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
January 15 2016 15:39 GMT
#690
Amazing fight by Secret.... but they shouldve get a pick off with dobule blink before roshing .... welp i hope they arent tilting too much
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
January 15 2016 15:39 GMT
#691
On January 16 2016 00:33 DwD wrote:
They got fucking rekt. Was like 6-4 Alliance and ended 6-21 LOL

I believe it was 4-6 into 6-21, which is only slightly less impressive nevertheless.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
January 15 2016 15:39 GMT
#692
whos that dude between sheever and winter
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44260 Posts
January 15 2016 15:40 GMT
#693
On January 16 2016 00:39 Nyan wrote:
I'm so hyped for ppy vs kky.
You better not ruin this secret! :p

inbefore we get an LGD vs Liquid finals

if secret went through this series
this is a quote
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 15 2016 15:40 GMT
#694
It is Secret's comfort zone though. They have no issues with games that utilise the whole map instead of deathballing. PLD's BH is insane in this type of games
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
January 15 2016 15:41 GMT
#695
On January 16 2016 00:36 goody153 wrote:
i can see puck working but offlane puck .. pls pick something useful for yourself s4 like batrider or TA

Puck offlane is even worse.

Those last months / years (?) the only Puck who impressed me, by that I mean having impact all game long not just the first 20 mins, was Afoninge. The dude was absolutely amazing even 60 mins into the game.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 15 2016 15:41 GMT
#696
On January 16 2016 00:39 kju wrote:
whos that dude between sheever and winter

Scantzor, a South African caster.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
January 15 2016 15:42 GMT
#697
On January 16 2016 00:38 Faruko wrote:
dota 2 analyst are so boring compared to csgo

such awkawrd


im sure its fine

id have silence over thorin any day anyways
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
LethalBacon
Profile Joined June 2015
Spain355 Posts
January 15 2016 15:42 GMT
#698
I also feel that Secret didn't play that well, but more like A let them look amazing. Poor ember, and easy job for dazzle specially Puppey
omfg we lost
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 15 2016 15:43 GMT
#699
On January 16 2016 00:40 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 00:39 Nyan wrote:
I'm so hyped for ppy vs kky.
You better not ruin this secret! :p

inbefore we get an LGD vs Liquid finals

if secret went through this series

that's what we're all waiting for!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 15:44:48
January 15 2016 15:43 GMT
#700
On January 16 2016 00:38 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 00:32 Acritter wrote:
like the double blinks do nothing would be fine if secret had bad core scaling, but as good as bear is, it does not outscale ember+gyro+np

when is it okay to give abd bear? answer: when none of the other alliance players do anything


Part of the problem is that they can't push that hard to find something with the blinks because they're not even that strong. Like what does their fight look like at that point? Puck can blink combo, slardar can blink crush, then what? Who are they setting up to do damage? Rubick? Sacrificial Undying? Bear who didn't come to fights before radiance?

It's just awkward to draft Puck and 1 Slardar together like this. Both set up their teammates to do damage, but nobody on Alliance could really use that setup.

at the stage where they had double blink, the damage from the two heroes is sufficient

it's like what ~900 damage from the full combo? that kills heroes, especially if you toss decay+fade bolt in

the sustain from that is the bear, who they should have been fighting around and using to take towers+limit farming space

trading towers in that situation is totally okay because alliance heroes basically clear their own space to farm, but they needed to do something to keep disrupting the secret gameplan, they just made the mistake of thinking that disrupting the laning phase was enough (obviously wasn't)

oh and the blink means that every time without exception they should be able to go on dazzle, which is the solution to all these problems, at the timing when all of this could go down there was no good way for secret to handle it
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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