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On October 27 2015 12:42 ref4 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 12:40 ptbl wrote:On October 27 2015 12:33 GumBa wrote:On October 27 2015 12:33 ptbl wrote:
I've been harping on Jerax and Kuroky for a while. Liquid has a history of having weak supports such as ixmike, fluff, and wayto. Looks like Jerax and Kuroky is continuing the tradition. Your like a broken record. I care too much for this team to go down the drain. You gotta make the difficult decisions quickly and not let it fester. I was one of the early ones campaigning for daps to be kicked from Liquid's csgo team, too. weird, most people are loyal to the players not to a team so if liquid dropped the 5JUNZ boys tomorrow and picked up 5 Chinese pub stars you'll still bleed H2O?
Yep, when huk left Team Liquid for EG, he became dead to me. I stop following dota 2 after Liquid was left without a team. I pretty much follow games where Liquid has a presence.
I'm all about the team, but I do have my soft spots for long time Liquid players like TLO and HerO.
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On October 27 2015 12:46 TheYango wrote:
I feel like there's actually only like 3 players in the world who actually use Ember well enough for it to be worth it for their teams to pick it, and other teams just pick it because those players make the hero look sufficiently strong, when it's probably far less worth it when you're not as good as those players at the hero.
Sumail, 430, and?
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On October 27 2015 12:43 ptbl wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 12:42 Daray wrote:On October 27 2015 12:39 Kamisamanachi wrote:On October 27 2015 12:37 Verniy wrote:On October 27 2015 12:34 Kamisamanachi wrote:
people talk about matumbaman ember..but i never saw liquid winning with it at this event...i mean,it must be other players playing bad ,but it just can't seem to live upto its hype matumbaman is 2-3 on ember since joining liquid, 18-17 all time then people overhype him,i think He's 9-4. He didn't look at the 5jungz games but yeah the ember hasn't been good for them this tournament. If he's not good at ember, then he's probably isn't good on nature prophet, tinker, etc. He seems to be good on hard carries like phantom lancer, windrunner, etc. He isn't really good at hard carry split pushers.
some heroes matumbaman has good winrates on:
Phantom Lancer (9-2, 81.8%), Juggernaut (10-4, 71.4%), Slark (13-8, 61.9%)
those 3, along with ember, are also his 4 most played heroes
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On October 27 2015 12:47 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 12:46 TheYango wrote:
I feel like there's actually only like 3 players in the world who actually use Ember well enough for it to be worth it for their teams to pick it, and other teams just pick it because those players make the hero look sufficiently strong, when it's probably far less worth it when you're not as good as those players at the hero. Sumail, 430, and?
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On October 27 2015 12:47 Azarkon wrote:
Sumail, 430, and?
I was thinking Sumail and Maybe and left a spot for the possibility of me forgetting someone.
430 flubs enough on the hero recently that I don't think it's worth it for iG.
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On October 27 2015 12:48 SKC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 12:47 Azarkon wrote:On October 27 2015 12:46 TheYango wrote:
I feel like there's actually only like 3 players in the world who actually use Ember well enough for it to be worth it for their teams to pick it, and other teams just pick it because those players make the hero look sufficiently strong, when it's probably far less worth it when you're not as good as those players at the hero. Sumail, 430, and? ush
RTC is pretty legit too
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On October 27 2015 12:47 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 12:46 TheYango wrote:
I feel like there's actually only like 3 players in the world who actually use Ember well enough for it to be worth it for their teams to pick it, and other teams just pick it because those players make the hero look sufficiently strong, when it's probably far less worth it when you're not as good as those players at the hero. Sumail, 430, and?
yah keep on hating on EE ember even though he plays it better than 430, who you actually had the audacity to list, even though he hasn't been on ember since 2013 LOL
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Well, they lost to that team.
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not open to public until tomorrow
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On October 27 2015 12:58 shouldbeworking wrote:
not open to public until tomorrow
i doubt anyone's gonna show since the tickets are so expensive
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On October 27 2015 12:52 ch33psh33p wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2015 12:47 Azarkon wrote:On October 27 2015 12:46 TheYango wrote:
I feel like there's actually only like 3 players in the world who actually use Ember well enough for it to be worth it for their teams to pick it, and other teams just pick it because those players make the hero look sufficiently strong, when it's probably far less worth it when you're not as good as those players at the hero. Sumail, 430, and? yah keep on hating on EE ember even though he plays it better than 430, who you actually had the audacity to list, even though he hasn't been on ember since 2013 LOL
lmao you know that azarkon has been a huge 430 hater for years lol. I was shocked he listed 430.
as much as I like EE, I think he's not better than 430 at ember. He plays Ember well, but it's not a hero that he play substantially better than everyone else (unlike his TB or drow for instance)
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On October 27 2015 12:52 ch33psh33p wrote:
yah keep on hating on EE ember even though he plays it better than 430, who you actually had the audacity to list, even though he hasn't been on ember since 2013 LOL
EE Ember is super different though.
Like, Sumail can basically go Treads and Blink in virtually every game because he and EG have the confidence that he will simply outplay and maximize it's (and the hero's) effectiveness.
EE's Ember is effective when they pick it, but at the same time, they probably know they're not capable of the same raw power on the hero so they fall back on Travels farm efficiency and making it work as a backline hero with a corresponding teamcomp rather than as a virtually self-sufficient pick the way EG can simply because of how good Sumail is at pushing the hero to it's limit.
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ROTK knows one strategy and that is push
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wow LGD is utter lost without xiao8
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EPT
