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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 03 2015 22:26 GMT
#1381
EEmber strong
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
December 03 2015 22:29 GMT
#1382
Still messy plays by Secret I feel, especially earlier on. But this game their draft is really forgiving imo, they had to screw up pretty hard for the game to go far enough in TL's favor.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 03 2015 22:29 GMT
#1383
On December 04 2015 07:12 Faruko wrote:
i dont believe that "Misery is so good", but i also believe he is a lot more stable that you give him credit

he's ass at everything that's not brood or dark seer. ur right, he is stable.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 22:30:22
December 03 2015 22:29 GMT
#1384
Kuroky is suppose to be a genius when it comes to drafting and strategy. He's supposed to be on this team for his mind and not for his subpar mechanics. I have to say, his drafts have been horrible for a while. He is stubborn and refuses to adapt. Why is he on this team? What does he bring? I feel like he is just taking a check and going through the motions.
Don't mind me
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
December 03 2015 22:30 GMT
#1385
Liquid were outdrafted by the 3rd pick. Not banning ember and SF in both first and second phase? lol
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
December 03 2015 22:31 GMT
#1386
i think one of misery's strengths as an offlaner is that he's so willing to play anything, even if he's not used to it or maybe isn't as good on it
it means puppey can pick a hero to suit the situation without needing to worry about staying in misery's comfort zone
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
December 03 2015 22:34 GMT
#1387
Even a badly played timber is a good hero in this situation. You guys are shitting on his mag when no offlaner is willing to play it. He does suck at tusk, but then again none of either secret's supports can play it either.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 03 2015 22:34 GMT
#1388
On December 04 2015 07:31 Verniy wrote:
i think one of misery's strengths as an offlaner is that he's so willing to play anything, even if he's not used to it or maybe isn't as good on it
it means puppey can pick a hero to suit the situation without needing to worry about staying in misery's comfort zone

it's not a strength if u constantly whiff all ur spells. any idiot can pick any hero in the game and then fail with it hows that a strength
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
December 03 2015 22:34 GMT
#1389
I dunno why Kuro keeps on drafting queen of pain for himself. It just doesn't fit his style. Kuro is not a support who is a playmaker. He's trying to make plays when he has no business trying. I feel like he has too much of a high regard in his own abilities. He really needs to come back to reality and draft solid, not flashy supports that fits his and team playstyle.
Don't mind me
trollcenter
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
362 Posts
December 03 2015 22:38 GMT
#1390
On December 04 2015 07:29 ptbl wrote:
Kuroky is suppose to be a genius when it comes to drafting and strategy. He's supposed to be on this team for his mind and not for his subpar mechanics. I have to say, his drafts have been horrible for a while. He is stubborn and refuses to adapt. Why is he on this team? What does he bring? I feel like he is just taking a check and going through the motions.


Don't see anyone else who could captain the team, he and Fata are the most experienced and it's hard to have the mid player as your leader. Kuro's also been a really good captain in the past (mouz, before going to Na'Vi), guess that didn't translate as expected to present days but it seemed like the obvious choice when the team was formed.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
December 03 2015 22:39 GMT
#1391
Let's be honest. The players on Liquid are not playmakers in the vein of zai or arteezy. Fata might be the only one on the team, but that would be stretching the definition of a playmaker. Liquid players have a more passive, safe and farming playstyle. Heroes like razor suits their playstyle.

Kuroky needs to draft heroes that fits his team. Stop drafting team comps that depends upon the flashiness of its players.
Don't mind me
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 22:41:58
December 03 2015 22:41 GMT
#1392
On December 04 2015 07:34 babysimba wrote:
Even a badly played timber is a good hero in this situation. You guys are shitting on his mag when no offlaner is willing to play it. He does suck at tusk, but then again none of either secret's supports can play it either.


His Tusk is actually pretty legit (or atleast was, for the few games I watched him play it in the Major). He received a lot of praise for it.
Envy fan since NTH.
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
December 03 2015 22:41 GMT
#1393
Kuro takes a page from FY's book of greedy support fails.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-03 22:44:13
December 03 2015 22:41 GMT
#1394
On December 04 2015 07:38 trollcenter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 07:29 ptbl wrote:
Kuroky is suppose to be a genius when it comes to drafting and strategy. He's supposed to be on this team for his mind and not for his subpar mechanics. I have to say, his drafts have been horrible for a while. He is stubborn and refuses to adapt. Why is he on this team? What does he bring? I feel like he is just taking a check and going through the motions.


Don't see anyone else who could captain the team, he and Fata are the most experienced and it's hard to have the mid player as your leader. Kuro's also been a really good captain in the past (mouz, before going to Na'Vi), guess that didn't translate as expected to present days but it seemed like the obvious choice when the team was formed.


Maybe, he should transition to a coaching role and give up his position to a new blood. He's holding back this team. I feel like he doesn't understand the strength and weakness of his team.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
December 03 2015 22:43 GMT
#1395
On December 04 2015 07:41 midou wrote:
Kuro takes a page from FY's book of greedy support fails.



He's been trying to force queen of pain as a support. He is not a good Qop player. It doesn't fit his or team playstyle. He isn't a playmaker that can utilize Qop to its fullest abilities.
Don't mind me
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 03 2015 22:47 GMT
#1396
On December 04 2015 07:41 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 07:38 trollcenter wrote:
On December 04 2015 07:29 ptbl wrote:
Kuroky is suppose to be a genius when it comes to drafting and strategy. He's supposed to be on this team for his mind and not for his subpar mechanics. I have to say, his drafts have been horrible for a while. He is stubborn and refuses to adapt. Why is he on this team? What does he bring? I feel like he is just taking a check and going through the motions.


Don't see anyone else who could captain the team, he and Fata are the most experienced and it's hard to have the mid player as your leader. Kuro's also been a really good captain in the past (mouz, before going to Na'Vi), guess that didn't translate as expected to present days but it seemed like the obvious choice when the team was formed.


Maybe, he should transition to a coaching role and give up his position to a new blood. He's holding back this team. I feel like he doesn't understand the srength and weakness of his team.

that game wasn't on his qop. he actually played above average well. it was on his decision of not banning sf and ember second phase that's like "you are playing against secret" level. and the pl into ember pick wtf. i think they played better than secret but his draft was terrible so secret had a ton of room for error and they eventually out scaled liquid and that was that. they woulda won if they had even a remotely even draft.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 03 2015 22:54 GMT
#1397
PL into Ember is fine.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 03 2015 22:57 GMT
#1398
On December 04 2015 07:54 hariooo wrote:
PL into Ember is fine.

it can work if u have pushing heroes to end the game early when ember melts to the diffusal illusions. but they had viper and support qop and rubick. those heroes don't hit towers and pl was forced to go late and that's where he's not fine at all.
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
December 03 2015 23:06 GMT
#1399
gyro's such a stupid hero
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
December 03 2015 23:06 GMT
#1400
I was about to complain about this Radiant pulling shit but then I remembered that Puppey did the exact same thing.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
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