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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
October 09 2015 22:00 GMT
#641
On October 10 2015 06:57 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2015 06:49 sweetkay wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:46 spudde123 wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:43 sweetkay wrote:
Have fun in the lower bracket Secret. Hope now tournament organizers stop giving them direct invites. They are obviously not the best in EU+CIS.


In the last Summit quals c9 lost first round in the upper bracket only to go through the lower bracket and qualify anyway. One series hardly tells the entire truth


Not talking about 1 series. There's also ESL one where they lost to Vega. A team whom many other eu teams beat recently. Hell even Alliance beat them for christ sake!

they also made it to the finals in the first place and crushed the WCA qualifier

they may or may not be overrated; really, who knows

Honestly it's way too early to tell

We have mlg, nanyang and the summit to help us really see whose good and whose not
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
October 09 2015 22:00 GMT
#642
I feel last pick should have been ranged carry like drow, dusa or even clinkz
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 09 2015 22:02 GMT
#643
On October 10 2015 06:59 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
people who like to sound superior over teams being apparently overrated just show how much they care about how idiots think

like woooooooo you pointed out that some people sounded dumb at some point grats

great posts people; you really contribute to the quality of discussion in these threads

Congratulations, you just made a post about people not contributing that contributes far less than the posts you were complaining about.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 22:04:02
October 09 2015 22:02 GMT
#644
like oh man when people start gloating over teams being overhyped n stuff and then other people take the bait and start citing all sorts of random results those are the BEST discussions i get so much out of those honestly why would anyone ever talk about things like drafts or strategic choices when you could talk about APPARENT RELATIVE STANDING
On October 10 2015 07:02 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2015 06:59 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
people who like to sound superior over teams being apparently overrated just show how much they care about how idiots think

like woooooooo you pointed out that some people sounded dumb at some point grats

great posts people; you really contribute to the quality of discussion in these threads

Congratulations, you just made a post about people not contributing that contributes far less than the posts you were complaining about.

i mean i've seen your posting, so i definitely didnt expect you to see the value in metaposting about what i think makes up good/bad posts in LR threads
posting on liquid sites in current year
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
October 09 2015 22:03 GMT
#645
EU is actually looking really good between Secret, Empire, Liquid, Vega, and VP.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 09 2015 22:04 GMT
#646
On October 10 2015 07:00 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2015 06:57 Elyvilon wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:49 sweetkay wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:46 spudde123 wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:43 sweetkay wrote:
Have fun in the lower bracket Secret. Hope now tournament organizers stop giving them direct invites. They are obviously not the best in EU+CIS.


In the last Summit quals c9 lost first round in the upper bracket only to go through the lower bracket and qualify anyway. One series hardly tells the entire truth


Not talking about 1 series. There's also ESL one where they lost to Vega. A team whom many other eu teams beat recently. Hell even Alliance beat them for christ sake!

they also made it to the finals in the first place and crushed the WCA qualifier

they may or may not be overrated; really, who knows

Honestly it's way too early to tell

We have mlg, nanyang and the summit to help us really see whose good and whose not

also the major qualifiers(although that doesn't help us rank secret, vp, and vega)

Regardless, I think it's pretty clear that the top tier of Europe is Secret, VP, Vega, Liquid, and I would argue (monkey) and Empire, in some order.
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dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
October 09 2015 22:05 GMT
#647
On October 10 2015 07:00 babysimba wrote:
I feel last pick should have been ranged carry like drow, dusa or even clinkz


Or Huskar. Huskar destroys a NS / Bane off lane and I'd say he's really strong vs Tiny/Gyro with Dazzle support.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 09 2015 22:07 GMT
#648
On October 10 2015 07:04 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2015 07:00 bagels21 wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:57 Elyvilon wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:49 sweetkay wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:46 spudde123 wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:43 sweetkay wrote:
Have fun in the lower bracket Secret. Hope now tournament organizers stop giving them direct invites. They are obviously not the best in EU+CIS.


In the last Summit quals c9 lost first round in the upper bracket only to go through the lower bracket and qualify anyway. One series hardly tells the entire truth


Not talking about 1 series. There's also ESL one where they lost to Vega. A team whom many other eu teams beat recently. Hell even Alliance beat them for christ sake!

they also made it to the finals in the first place and crushed the WCA qualifier

they may or may not be overrated; really, who knows

Honestly it's way too early to tell

We have mlg, nanyang and the summit to help us really see whose good and whose not

also the major qualifiers(although that doesn't help us rank secret, vp, and vega)

Regardless, I think it's pretty clear that the top tier of Europe is Secret, VP, Vega, Liquid, and I would argue (monkey) and Empire, in some order.

I mean you're combining two separate scenes with two different play styles, but yeah those guys look like the class of eu/cis
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 09 2015 22:18 GMT
#649
Well that series went downhill fast for Secret.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 23:11:27
October 09 2015 23:11 GMT
#650
On October 10 2015 06:45 unsaeglich wrote:
wtf lyrical? did he stole merlinis voice, I was 100% certain the whole games long that it is merlini casting

I thought the same :D
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
October 10 2015 00:07 GMT
#651
On October 10 2015 07:04 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2015 07:00 bagels21 wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:57 Elyvilon wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:49 sweetkay wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:46 spudde123 wrote:
On October 10 2015 06:43 sweetkay wrote:
Have fun in the lower bracket Secret. Hope now tournament organizers stop giving them direct invites. They are obviously not the best in EU+CIS.


In the last Summit quals c9 lost first round in the upper bracket only to go through the lower bracket and qualify anyway. One series hardly tells the entire truth


Not talking about 1 series. There's also ESL one where they lost to Vega. A team whom many other eu teams beat recently. Hell even Alliance beat them for christ sake!

they also made it to the finals in the first place and crushed the WCA qualifier

they may or may not be overrated; really, who knows

Honestly it's way too early to tell

We have mlg, nanyang and the summit to help us really see whose good and whose not

also the major qualifiers(although that doesn't help us rank secret, vp, and vega)

Regardless, I think it's pretty clear that the top tier of Europe is Secret, VP, Vega, Liquid, and I would argue (monkey) and Empire, in some order.


For sure, it should be fun
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
October 10 2015 07:41 GMT
#652
On October 10 2015 06:45 pat777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2015 06:42 Fiamma wrote:
Weakness of old C9 with the weaknesses of Puppey drafting

What a team

without old C9's CIS killing powers

pre notail C9 did not really have CIS killing powers actually, remember that game vs VP at DreamLeague S2? I fucking do.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
October 10 2015 09:32 GMT
#653
I dont get, why ppl start flaming teams after 1 matchup.
Secret played a good WCA qualify and went #1
The first big major they placed #2
and now they just dropped out in summit, wuhu.

In the end secret showed the best results?
EG dropped in their first game, so what, now they re the worst US team?

This makes no sense to me, Secret is top 3 EU Team and they deserve direct invites. In the end, they need to play a lot more games. Liquid showed up the same, at the start they struggled and now they re top 3 EU.
TArujo
Profile Joined September 2009
Portugal1687 Posts
October 14 2015 21:58 GMT
#654
who's casting root vs coL?
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
October 14 2015 22:14 GMT
#655
On October 15 2015 06:58 TArujo wrote:
who's casting root vs coL?

upcoming aussie grill caster LlamaDownUnder
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
October 15 2015 00:28 GMT
#656
On October 15 2015 07:14 Verniy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 06:58 TArujo wrote:
who's casting root vs coL?

upcoming aussie grill caster LlamaDownUnder


seems pretty decent but that shits off the madness that was majors so lol
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
October 15 2015 00:31 GMT
#657
hows this safelane wr mid 5th pick dusa even a sane idea smh
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
October 15 2015 01:02 GMT
#658
On October 15 2015 09:31 ymir233 wrote:
hows this safelane wr mid 5th pick dusa even a sane idea smh

seemed pretty good to me
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 01:20:02
October 15 2015 01:19 GMT
#659
Ok. Hows this getting laned? High council draft seems weird though I think you can go poor on seer.

edit: Yeah i'm confused
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
October 15 2015 01:24 GMT
#660
smash getting some swag from ztok
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