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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 17:03:16
October 01 2015 04:48 GMT
#1
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 01 2015 04:51 GMT
#2
I also want to offer a public thank you to FO-nTTaX for putting together the strangeness that is the Americas bracket.
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broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
October 01 2015 05:49 GMT
#3
why is Na'Vi seeded into the second round of the qualifier
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
October 01 2015 05:59 GMT
#4
hey the link to the american bracket on liquipedia is to ESL NY, not the summit
hell is other people
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 01 2015 06:10 GMT
#5
On October 01 2015 14:59 Exoteric wrote:
hey the link to the american bracket on liquipedia is to ESL NY, not the summit

I have no idea what you're talking about(thanks, fixed)

now gaze on the americas bracket
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uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 06:27:53
October 01 2015 06:27 GMT
#6
so secret won't get the defending champion direct invite? or will they invite EG seeing they aren't in the qualifier bracket

pretty lame if that's how it is

almost as hillarious as NaVi's placement in the winner's round 2
Seanzk
Profile Joined September 2012
China609 Posts
October 01 2015 06:38 GMT
#7
Maybe they are based on TI5's results of each team. EG was the champion and Na'Vi had advanced to the main event.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 01 2015 06:40 GMT
#8
I imagine EG is getting the direct invite in lieu of Secret because of Secret's massive roster change but I don't actually know
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 08:31:02
October 01 2015 08:28 GMT
#9
I don't really mind them inviting EG. Inviting the "previous champion" wouldn't have made much sense given it's not the same team any more. At least EG has 4/5 of the TI winning squad. Also inviting EG guarantees that the tournament will have 2 NA teams, and for this tournament they need English speaking players to make the event work. From that angle inviting Secret would have achieved a similar thing I guess.

Though as a spectator it's a bit annoying how all these NA teams never really get to challenge EG because they never play online and there doesn't seem to be any NA focused LANs.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 09:55:50
October 01 2015 09:53 GMT
#10
Yeah I don't really know how you can argue against the EG invite, it just makes sense.
-The previous winner changed 4 players out of 5
-EG placed 2nd at last summit, won TI and only changed one player since then. (the new player being from the team that won!)
-From a starpower/marking value standpoint you want EG in your tournament
-Especially since its an NA tournament
-In the current state of the scene EG is probably the only team that doesn't have anything to prove (maybe VP too) forcing them to go through a qualifier makes no sense and is probably the best way to make them skip your tournament.
Romanes eunt domus
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
October 01 2015 11:02 GMT
#11
As far as VP goes I somewhat disagree. Their position is in a way similar to CDEC in China. Both had good TI results and are now getting direct invites, but before that they were hardly all that dominant. VP was top4 in EU, but outside of TI they never were the best in their region. VP didn't make it through the EU qualifiers when all teams were playing to a bunch of tournaments for example: they missed DAC, SL12, and Summit 3. Obviously other teams around them changed their rosters, but still there is imo plenty of room for doubt whether VP is actually the top team of the region or again just close to the top. In that sense I don't really like it when there's at most a few spots per region at each LAN and then some of those are given out as invites to Secret/VP/CDEC or whoever. EG is a different story because they've been by far the #1 team in their own region for a long while now, and now they even won the 2 biggest tournaments of the year and have been one of the absolute best teams in the world.

But of course there's also the angle you mentioned, if you as an organizer want some teams to play in your tournament then you may have to invite them because they simply don't have time for the qualifiers if they are right in the middle of a busy LAN season. Though in Summit's case all teams seem to be playing despite the fact that the entire month is already full of games: there's 3 LANs, the Major qualifiers, different leagues like Defense/D2CL/Dreamleague. Interesting to see how many teams will be invited to the Major, if they don't invite Secret for example then their month is going to be really hectic with constant travel and important games all the time.
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 11:43:30
October 01 2015 11:39 GMT
#12
Na'Vi getting a qualifier round 2 invite over 5jungz, MB and NiP is pretty fucking weird though.
Romanes eunt domus
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-01 12:32:06
October 01 2015 12:30 GMT
#13
ROFL

They should've just invited more teams instead of playing NaVi into the second round, so stupid honestly. BTS is always biased to teams with big brands like Alliance and NaVi anyway

Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
October 01 2015 12:42 GMT
#14
it's not such a big deal really, it's a DE bracket and top 2 is qualified, doesn't matter in the end where you are seeded
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Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
October 01 2015 13:56 GMT
#15
On October 01 2015 21:30 cuckoo wrote:
ROFL

They should've just invited more teams instead of playing NaVi into the second round, so stupid honestly. BTS is always biased to teams with big brands like Alliance and NaVi anyway


according to ixmike, they also intentionally fail to load in games so they can run more ads. but seriously, i agree, miracle is better than navi and probably newteam as well
"So playing SF in pubs, everyone remember that a very important point is that when using a carry hero like this you must be very selfish. Because working with team mates is a very dangerous thing" - 2009
cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
October 01 2015 14:14 GMT
#16
On October 01 2015 22:56 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 21:30 cuckoo wrote:
ROFL

They should've just invited more teams instead of playing NaVi into the second round, so stupid honestly. BTS is always biased to teams with big brands like Alliance and NaVi anyway


according to ixmike, they also intentionally fail to load in games so they can run more ads. but seriously, i agree, miracle is better than navi and probably newteam as well


even empire, although they suck atm, deserve way more than navi
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
October 01 2015 14:29 GMT
#17
On October 01 2015 22:56 Kabras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 21:30 cuckoo wrote:
ROFL

They should've just invited more teams instead of playing NaVi into the second round, so stupid honestly. BTS is always biased to teams with big brands like Alliance and NaVi anyway


according to ixmike, they also intentionally fail to load in games so they can run more ads. but seriously, i agree, miracle is better than navi and probably newteam as well

Source?
rip
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 01 2015 15:45 GMT
#18
NiP appears to be getting thrashed on kills but doing kind of okay on farm so they might be only behind instead of enormously behind?
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cuckoo
Profile Joined October 2014
595 Posts
October 01 2015 15:47 GMT
#19
I will never understand why NiP changed Apemother to Limmp, he's so so much worse than Ape

Also, they became a t2 team after the change
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 01 2015 15:51 GMT
#20
On October 02 2015 00:47 cuckoo wrote:
I will never understand why NiP changed Apemother to Limmp, he's so so much worse than Ape

Also, they became a t2 team after the change

no, they stayed about the same tier

they dropped a level when 6.84 dropped
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