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A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much.

Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks.

On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 09 2015 01:58 GMT
#5841
On August 09 2015 10:56 Lorizean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:53 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:52 DwD wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 DwD wrote:
What was the advantage of coming from the winner bracket?


Not play a team.


? But everyone else had 2 lives but them? That's not right.


It' what people wanted after 2012.

To be fair, something like being one game up as upper bracket winner or having to win 2 series as the lower bracket contender is very heavy handed and takes out a lot of the tension.

Maybe something minor like having the winner bracket team win the coin flip by default might be in order.

You also have to consider that EG had to play two series today, whereas CDEC are fresh and get one more series worth of information.

1 game advantage in a Bo5 is too big. 1 game advantage is Bo7 felt like it doesn't really matter.... not sure if anyone wants to play a Bo7 either.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5842
13 minute Blood Stone.

Wow.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5843
On August 09 2015 10:58 EnvyUK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:56 Lorizean wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:53 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:52 DwD wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 DwD wrote:
What was the advantage of coming from the winner bracket?


Not play a team.


? But everyone else had 2 lives but them? That's not right.


It' what people wanted after 2012.

To be fair, something like being one game up as upper bracket winner or having to win 2 series as the lower bracket contender is very heavy handed and takes out a lot of the tension.

Maybe something minor like having the winner bracket team win the coin flip by default might be in order.

You also have to consider that EG had to play two series today, whereas CDEC are fresh and get one more series worth of information.


In an interview I remember a player saying playing that extra series is better as it serves as a decent warm-up.


Tell that to LGD.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5844
On August 09 2015 10:57 Daralii wrote:
Reminder:



TRALF WAS RIGHT


why didnt he predict 3-2 so we could get a 5th game, this is his fault
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y3gz
Profile Joined May 2013
Brazil14 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5845
This game is looking very scary for EG imo, not sure if they are gonna be able to hold on the pressure that it's about to come in the next 10 mins.

Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5846
Bloodstone before treads

Wooooooooooooooooo
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5847
cdec broken?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5848
On August 09 2015 10:59 y3gz wrote:
This game is looking very scary for EG imo, not sure if they are gonna be able to hold on the pressure that it's about to come in the next 10 mins.



their cores are ahead, and they have aa/naga

theyre pretty comfortable really
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5849
On August 09 2015 10:59 Grettin wrote:
Bloodstone before treads

Wooooooooooooooooo

Bloodstone after Arcanes*
Average means I'm better than half of you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 02:01:22
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5850
On August 09 2015 10:58 Aceace wrote:
Aquila into BoT on PL.
That was meaningless. They have DK who has to push into some towers. PL with BoT's doesn't offer anything to that push. If the purpose was going late why would go for a DK mid? Pick something else!

DK lategame is very good.

DK is actually *the* pick if you just expect to get totally out-skilled mid and want a flexible pick that can play from behind but still go lategame.

With the current apparent skill difference between Sumail and Shiki in laning, you don't want a pick that needs to be not-behind to be useful, and DK is just that.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5851
On August 09 2015 10:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:53 Shergal wrote:
In most cases, only the lack of it is. This isn't really SC2 or a fighting game.

It's super disingenuous to call Shiki losing lanes to Sumail a "lack of skill" rather than exceptional skill on Sumail's part. Even Azarkon isn't that eager to flame Chinese players.

Sumail really is just that good. His Achilles heel is his relative inexperience so in really scrappy games like game 1 of the WB, some of his decision making can be questionable.

So Sumail is basically a Roger Federer of DotA at his first Grand Slam?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5852
Yeah I don't know how CDEC plans on winning if they don't turn on the aggression soon.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5853
This series is a drastic difference from CDEC vs EG yesterday. EG are far more prepared and ready to outplay here.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5854
The real question is whether or not ppd will get aghs before the hour mark.
thiagoop
Profile Joined May 2015
Brazil365 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5855
PL is the name of the game here, he is the only one keeping CDEC on the tournament
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5856
DK is a really strong mid hero this patch imo, like you just stableize
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5857
--- Nuked ---
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5858
The good old Aui farm alone while the rest of EG is a team.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5859
On August 09 2015 11:00 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:56 TheYango wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:53 Shergal wrote:
In most cases, only the lack of it is. This isn't really SC2 or a fighting game.

It's super disingenuous to call Shiki losing lanes to Sumail a "lack of skill" rather than exceptional skill on Sumail's part. Even Azarkon isn't that eager to flame Chinese players.

Sumail really is just that good. His Achilles heel is his relative inexperience so in really scrappy games like game 1 of the WB, some of his decision making can be questionable.

So Sumail is basically a Roger Federer of DotA at his first Grand Slam?

Sumail already won one Grand Slam.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5860
On August 09 2015 10:56 Lorizean wrote:
You also have to consider that EG had to play two series today, whereas CDEC are fresh and get one more series worth of information.

while playing at a high level can be exhausting, i'm not sure 3 hours in it can be considered a disadvantage. They probably play 8-12h a day, if anything 3h competitive before finals might actually be an advantage.

I don't know about the whole argument. EG had to win 1 more game to get to finals, so that's making it harder for them already. Maybe give them a Coin Toss disadvantage if the winner bracket guys must have something (like, just take the toss away and give them choice for game 1, 3, 4).

Starting a game down takes a lot of the suspense out of a Final
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