• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:25
CEST 00:25
KST 07:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202543Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments4[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced62
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025) The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now"
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments WardiTV Mondays RSL Season 2 Qualifier Links and Dates StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Global Tourney for College Students in September
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion StarCraft player reflex TE scores BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCon Philadelphia Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 773 users

[TI5] Main Event Day 6 - Page 293

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 291 292 293 294 295 360 Next
A few USA chants are fine but please don't do it too much.

Stop the stupid USA arguments, thanks.

On another note, CDEC flairs are now live. Sorry about the delay on that.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 09 2015 01:58 GMT
#5841
On August 09 2015 10:56 Lorizean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:53 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:52 DwD wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 DwD wrote:
What was the advantage of coming from the winner bracket?


Not play a team.


? But everyone else had 2 lives but them? That's not right.


It' what people wanted after 2012.

To be fair, something like being one game up as upper bracket winner or having to win 2 series as the lower bracket contender is very heavy handed and takes out a lot of the tension.

Maybe something minor like having the winner bracket team win the coin flip by default might be in order.

You also have to consider that EG had to play two series today, whereas CDEC are fresh and get one more series worth of information.

1 game advantage in a Bo5 is too big. 1 game advantage is Bo7 felt like it doesn't really matter.... not sure if anyone wants to play a Bo7 either.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5842
13 minute Blood Stone.

Wow.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5843
On August 09 2015 10:58 EnvyUK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:56 Lorizean wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:53 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:52 DwD wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 Azarkon wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:50 DwD wrote:
What was the advantage of coming from the winner bracket?


Not play a team.


? But everyone else had 2 lives but them? That's not right.


It' what people wanted after 2012.

To be fair, something like being one game up as upper bracket winner or having to win 2 series as the lower bracket contender is very heavy handed and takes out a lot of the tension.

Maybe something minor like having the winner bracket team win the coin flip by default might be in order.

You also have to consider that EG had to play two series today, whereas CDEC are fresh and get one more series worth of information.


In an interview I remember a player saying playing that extra series is better as it serves as a decent warm-up.


Tell that to LGD.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5844
On August 09 2015 10:57 Daralii wrote:
Reminder:



TRALF WAS RIGHT


why didnt he predict 3-2 so we could get a 5th game, this is his fault
Moderator
y3gz
Profile Joined May 2013
Brazil14 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5845
This game is looking very scary for EG imo, not sure if they are gonna be able to hold on the pressure that it's about to come in the next 10 mins.

Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 09 2015 01:59 GMT
#5846
Bloodstone before treads

Wooooooooooooooooo
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5847
cdec broken?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5848
On August 09 2015 10:59 y3gz wrote:
This game is looking very scary for EG imo, not sure if they are gonna be able to hold on the pressure that it's about to come in the next 10 mins.



their cores are ahead, and they have aa/naga

theyre pretty comfortable really
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5849
On August 09 2015 10:59 Grettin wrote:
Bloodstone before treads

Wooooooooooooooooo

Bloodstone after Arcanes*
Average means I'm better than half of you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 02:01:22
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5850
On August 09 2015 10:58 Aceace wrote:
Aquila into BoT on PL.
That was meaningless. They have DK who has to push into some towers. PL with BoT's doesn't offer anything to that push. If the purpose was going late why would go for a DK mid? Pick something else!

DK lategame is very good.

DK is actually *the* pick if you just expect to get totally out-skilled mid and want a flexible pick that can play from behind but still go lategame.

With the current apparent skill difference between Sumail and Shiki in laning, you don't want a pick that needs to be not-behind to be useful, and DK is just that.
Moderator
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5851
On August 09 2015 10:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:53 Shergal wrote:
In most cases, only the lack of it is. This isn't really SC2 or a fighting game.

It's super disingenuous to call Shiki losing lanes to Sumail a "lack of skill" rather than exceptional skill on Sumail's part. Even Azarkon isn't that eager to flame Chinese players.

Sumail really is just that good. His Achilles heel is his relative inexperience so in really scrappy games like game 1 of the WB, some of his decision making can be questionable.

So Sumail is basically a Roger Federer of DotA at his first Grand Slam?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5852
Yeah I don't know how CDEC plans on winning if they don't turn on the aggression soon.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5853
This series is a drastic difference from CDEC vs EG yesterday. EG are far more prepared and ready to outplay here.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5854
The real question is whether or not ppd will get aghs before the hour mark.
thiagoop
Profile Joined May 2015
Brazil365 Posts
August 09 2015 02:00 GMT
#5855
PL is the name of the game here, he is the only one keeping CDEC on the tournament
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5856
DK is a really strong mid hero this patch imo, like you just stableize
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5857
PL's farming very well, though, EG needs to do something quick
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5858
The good old Aui farm alone while the rest of EG is a team.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5859
On August 09 2015 11:00 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 10:56 TheYango wrote:
On August 09 2015 10:53 Shergal wrote:
In most cases, only the lack of it is. This isn't really SC2 or a fighting game.

It's super disingenuous to call Shiki losing lanes to Sumail a "lack of skill" rather than exceptional skill on Sumail's part. Even Azarkon isn't that eager to flame Chinese players.

Sumail really is just that good. His Achilles heel is his relative inexperience so in really scrappy games like game 1 of the WB, some of his decision making can be questionable.

So Sumail is basically a Roger Federer of DotA at his first Grand Slam?

Sumail already won one Grand Slam.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
August 09 2015 02:01 GMT
#5860
On August 09 2015 10:56 Lorizean wrote:
You also have to consider that EG had to play two series today, whereas CDEC are fresh and get one more series worth of information.

while playing at a high level can be exhausting, i'm not sure 3 hours in it can be considered a disadvantage. They probably play 8-12h a day, if anything 3h competitive before finals might actually be an advantage.

I don't know about the whole argument. EG had to win 1 more game to get to finals, so that's making it harder for them already. Maybe give them a Coin Toss disadvantage if the winner bracket guys must have something (like, just take the toss away and give them choice for game 1, 3, 4).

Starting a game down takes a lot of the suspense out of a Final
Prev 1 291 292 293 294 295 360 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 102
NaDa 40
sSak 35
Stormgate
Nathanias177
JuggernautJason116
NightEnD13
Dota 2
Dendi1746
capcasts252
NeuroSwarm51
PGG 33
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K361
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken28
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu507
Other Games
summit1g13180
tarik_tv5478
shahzam736
JimRising 259
C9.Mang0119
monkeys_forever61
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV145
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 57
• Berry_CruncH48
• davetesta47
• RyuSc2 41
• Adnapsc2 3
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21968
League of Legends
• Doublelift3573
Other Games
• imaqtpie1363
• Shiphtur407
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 35m
LiuLi Cup
12h 35m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
16h 35m
RSL Revival
1d 3h
RSL Revival
1d 11h
SC Evo League
1d 13h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 16h
CSO Cup
1d 17h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.