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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#1621
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#1622
On August 08 2015 05:14 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:12 Daralii wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:12 goody153 wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:11 lolnoty wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:09 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:09 bludragen88 wrote:
Well if EG wins first, the west can still take home more than 50% of the prize pool with 50.9%. Otherwise, we better hope all of the money makes China complacent so the west can catch up in future years.


thats what they said happened this year

then west got facerolled by chinese at TI

again.

Na actually improved, EU is the one stuck in the mud. I would say CIS improved also.

also unlike last year where everybody could see the chinese dominated TI incoming .. this year isn't like that cause the few tournaments before TI was mostly western won

I thought it was because it's an odd numbered year.

wel that works too outside the chinese owning most of the year

this is supposed to be the year of the west now it's all on EG's hands

chinese teams have not been winning tournaments with non-chinese tournaments in 6.84
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Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#1623
On August 08 2015 05:18 Verniy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:16 Niteblade_ wrote:
Can someone explain to an outsider what makes less so powerful this patch? I haven't watched much since the last ti, so I'm not very aware of the current meta and the strongest heros

Most recent patch introduced an item called Octarine Core that allows casters like Leshrac to scale better lategame.
Leshrac in particular can become nigh-immortal with Octarine thanks to his mass AoE damage.
On top of that, all the buffs to Lightning Storm over the past several patches have made Leshrac's laning phase and farming ability extremely strong.

i honestly think the bloodstone buffs are more consequential than the addition of octarine
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#1624
On August 08 2015 05:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:16 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:10 HUMMAN wrote:
I cant understand how LGD won from the first. They didn't have a strong counter to lesh, also es and lesh were good heroes against pl. Yet in early game, even Vp took rax and rosh LGD never gave an opening in networth and when their carries got fat finished their game. Very impressive. %0 Leshrac win rate in main event now what?


They built BKBs. Once they had BKBs the game was over really, nothing on VP could deal with them (even if there was a miracle grip there was almost 0 damage) and rax were easy enough.

Bounty helped a lot too.

Lesh takes a long time to kill tanky heroes and the rest of VPs line up was made of glass. CM is really hard to play against bounty and PL too.


Hence why the CK ban was genius in retrospect. Imagine having to face that tanky fucker warping around the battlefield while VP's supports get free reign.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#1625
Ahahahaha Redeye now saying C-D-E-C instead of CDeck even though yesterday (?) he cracked a joke about how he wouldn't call them that
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
August 07 2015 20:20 GMT
#1626
Next year will be cool because I think there will be no invites any longer, only points based on major placements and an open qualifier for wildcards
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1627
On August 08 2015 05:17 SkelA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:16 Niteblade_ wrote:
Can someone explain to an outsider what makes less so powerful this patch? I haven't watched much since the last ti, so I'm not very aware of the current meta and the strongest heros


More or less Octarine core made him a popular pick

also magic in general is more viable with the massive BKB change (can't but a new 10 second one) which is very important lategame.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1628
On August 08 2015 05:18 trinxified wrote:
VP simply got outdrafted.

But at least good news is, Leshrac might not get nerfed.

I'm a dirty pony picker. Hero is too versatile and good in pubs as well.

Can play as mid, safe, or support and still own. Might even work in dual offlane lanes.


I think zero chance Lesh doesn't get nerfed. Pros have a direct line to the Frog and I am pretty sure it's unanimous that the hero is too good.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 20:21:37
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1629
On August 08 2015 05:20 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:14 goody153 wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:12 Daralii wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:12 goody153 wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:11 lolnoty wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:09 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:09 bludragen88 wrote:
Well if EG wins first, the west can still take home more than 50% of the prize pool with 50.9%. Otherwise, we better hope all of the money makes China complacent so the west can catch up in future years.


thats what they said happened this year

then west got facerolled by chinese at TI

again.

Na actually improved, EU is the one stuck in the mud. I would say CIS improved also.

also unlike last year where everybody could see the chinese dominated TI incoming .. this year isn't like that cause the few tournaments before TI was mostly western won

I thought it was because it's an odd numbered year.

wel that works too outside the chinese owning most of the year

this is supposed to be the year of the west now it's all on EG's hands

chinese teams have not been winning tournaments with non-chinese tournaments in 6.84

i meant pre-TI4 not this year
this is a quote
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1630
On August 08 2015 05:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:16 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:10 HUMMAN wrote:
I cant understand how LGD won from the first. They didn't have a strong counter to lesh, also es and lesh were good heroes against pl. Yet in early game, even Vp took rax and rosh LGD never gave an opening in networth and when their carries got fat finished their game. Very impressive. %0 Leshrac win rate in main event now what?


They built BKBs. Once they had BKBs the game was over really, nothing on VP could deal with them (even if there was a miracle grip there was almost 0 damage) and rax were easy enough.

Bounty helped a lot too.

Lesh takes a long time to kill tanky heroes and the rest of VPs line up was made of glass. CM is really hard to play against bounty and PL too.


Hence why the CK ban was genius in retrospect. Imagine having to face that tanky fucker warping around the battlefield while VP's supports get free reign.

Plus one of few heroes that wrecks TA.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1631
On August 08 2015 05:21 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:17 SkelA wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:16 Niteblade_ wrote:
Can someone explain to an outsider what makes less so powerful this patch? I haven't watched much since the last ti, so I'm not very aware of the current meta and the strongest heros


More or less Octarine core made him a popular pick

also magic in general is more viable with the massive BKB change (can't but a new 10 second one) which is very important lategame.


Not being able to rebuy BKB has been in for quite some time
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1632
On August 08 2015 05:20 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:19 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:16 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:10 HUMMAN wrote:
I cant understand how LGD won from the first. They didn't have a strong counter to lesh, also es and lesh were good heroes against pl. Yet in early game, even Vp took rax and rosh LGD never gave an opening in networth and when their carries got fat finished their game. Very impressive. %0 Leshrac win rate in main event now what?


They built BKBs. Once they had BKBs the game was over really, nothing on VP could deal with them (even if there was a miracle grip there was almost 0 damage) and rax were easy enough.

Bounty helped a lot too.

Lesh takes a long time to kill tanky heroes and the rest of VPs line up was made of glass. CM is really hard to play against bounty and PL too.


Hence why the CK ban was genius in retrospect. Imagine having to face that tanky fucker warping around the battlefield while VP's supports get free reign.



yeah I think that last ban CK was real good, I actually think VP would just crush them with CK (they didn't have much to deal with CK illusions that game really).
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1633
On August 08 2015 05:17 shad2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:16 juff wrote:
well, here's my amateurish attempt at a leshrac gif
[image loading]


That is so adorable. Like the mini maiden that we saw awhile back.

Reminds me of the JD sheep :3
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1634
Guys remember. Even if America wins the money goes to China. In the end China win the money regardless of the outcome.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1635
On August 08 2015 05:20 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Ahahahaha Redeye now saying C-D-E-C instead of CDeck even though yesterday (?) he cracked a joke about how he wouldn't call them that

It's not our fault the Chinese apparently don't understand what we do to acronyms. In our language.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 20:22:45
August 07 2015 20:21 GMT
#1636
On August 08 2015 05:20 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:18 Verniy wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:16 Niteblade_ wrote:
Can someone explain to an outsider what makes less so powerful this patch? I haven't watched much since the last ti, so I'm not very aware of the current meta and the strongest heros

Most recent patch introduced an item called Octarine Core that allows casters like Leshrac to scale better lategame.
Leshrac in particular can become nigh-immortal with Octarine thanks to his mass AoE damage.
On top of that, all the buffs to Lightning Storm over the past several patches have made Leshrac's laning phase and farming ability extremely strong.

i honestly think the bloodstone buffs are more consequential than the addition of octarine


i will spend that 4k gold on hex any other day than on that octarino core

that said, western teams have some strong resistance to buy hex since 2011
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
August 07 2015 20:22 GMT
#1637
On August 08 2015 05:20 FHDH wrote:
https://twitter.com/team_empire/status/629746977333510144


Based Empire tweets
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 07 2015 20:22 GMT
#1638
On August 08 2015 05:20 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:14 goody153 wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:12 Daralii wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:12 goody153 wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:11 lolnoty wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:09 ch33psh33p wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:09 bludragen88 wrote:
Well if EG wins first, the west can still take home more than 50% of the prize pool with 50.9%. Otherwise, we better hope all of the money makes China complacent so the west can catch up in future years.


thats what they said happened this year

then west got facerolled by chinese at TI

again.

Na actually improved, EU is the one stuck in the mud. I would say CIS improved also.

also unlike last year where everybody could see the chinese dominated TI incoming .. this year isn't like that cause the few tournaments before TI was mostly western won

I thought it was because it's an odd numbered year.

wel that works too outside the chinese owning most of the year

this is supposed to be the year of the west now it's all on EG's hands

chinese teams have not been winning tournaments with non-chinese tournaments in 6.84


Cause Secret won everything...
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 07 2015 20:22 GMT
#1639
On August 08 2015 05:20 trifecta wrote:
Next year will be cool because I think there will be no invites any longer, only points based on major placements and an open qualifier for wildcards


which would lead to the exact same 16 teams. :D
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-07 20:23:15
August 07 2015 20:23 GMT
#1640
On August 08 2015 05:21 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2015 05:21 lolnoty wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:17 SkelA wrote:
On August 08 2015 05:16 Niteblade_ wrote:
Can someone explain to an outsider what makes less so powerful this patch? I haven't watched much since the last ti, so I'm not very aware of the current meta and the strongest heros


More or less Octarine core made him a popular pick

also magic in general is more viable with the massive BKB change (can't but a new 10 second one) which is very important lategame.


Not being able to rebuy BKB has been in for quite some time

yeah, and lesh was affected by an collective of changes over the year, not one patch. anyone wondering about meta shifts and are seasonal TI viewers wouldn't know that change and it's a large impact
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
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