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Azimuth
Profile Joined April 2015
231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 23:30:03
August 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#3861
Iceiceice was right. You don't wanna go in as favorites, first 2014 DK, now Secret. Atleast DK got 4th place
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#3862
On August 07 2015 08:28 Danzo wrote:
You guys...........it's PPD vs China now. VP did a great run, but they won't go further in the Chinese power house. EG alone in this boys, can't turn back now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #BLEEDBLUE

IN PPD WE TRUST
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
August 06 2015 23:29 GMT
#3863
I don't know who to cheer for now :-(
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3864
On August 07 2015 08:28 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 08:26 dmnum wrote:
On August 07 2015 08:26 Azarkon wrote:
PPD has never been afraid of facing China alone. 2014 was practically all PPD against China, and early 2015 he won their biggest tournament. I still believe that the West is going to win this year.

shut up


no you

opinions on secret getting ... secrekt?
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3865
On August 07 2015 08:27 humblegar wrote:
Zai looked pissed vs both VP and IG. He also played amazing.

Secret just did not seem hungry enough, and more than anything not prepared enough. I mean who would want to play Secret's draft vs VP's draft in that last game?


Secret should have picked ds and es. The rubick so early was really stupid. Anyway sad that such skilled players somehow forgot to draft in this international.
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3866
lets go EHOME!!
我是冠军
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3867
On August 07 2015 08:29 TheNewEra wrote:
CDEC vs Ehome finals. For the storylines pls


Here you go:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2015/Main_Qualifiers
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3868
I still think that zai is secret's best player, every time I watch them it's the same.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3869
On August 07 2015 08:28 pellejohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 08:27 faiza wrote:
On August 07 2015 08:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On August 07 2015 08:24 lolnoty wrote:

Oh God that's actually hilarious.


life pro tip: if a beating a team at ti is what your getting married is based on, there might be bigger problems with your relationship.


Implying marriage doesn't cost a ton of money smh

Belarus is still a second world economy with cancerous aligarchs. It's even worse than Ukraine.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3870
I don't see much hope for secret staying together. They will probably just disband. Zai to school, RTZ will quit and search for greener pastures, leaving puppey and kuro to try andbuild something new again. Not sure if s4 stays or not
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3871
On August 07 2015 08:29 pellejohnson wrote:
What surprise to see all secret fanboys immediately jump to EG. Is it possible to be anymore boring?

Gotta have someone to support yo, and of the remaining teams the only western ones are EG and VP, so not much choice.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3872
On August 07 2015 08:29 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 08:24 Grettin wrote:
On August 07 2015 08:23 solidbebe wrote:
On August 07 2015 08:21 xyzz wrote:
How was Zai so-so? IMO he played amazingly all TI


I agree. Zai and Arteezy were the standout players. Zai delivered every time when he was on a hero that has impact. Arteezy was number one on net worth every single game, even the losses, despite his team not playing any 4 protect 1 strategy.

Did you completely forget game 2? Rtz was fucking awful that whole game, and S4s amazing is what even kept them in the game for so long


And do you remember game 1? Rtz was the reason they actually managed to win. Add Zai to that..

game 1 they actually played at the level they are at when they dont tilt..

everyone played equally well that game

in the second game, rtz got cocky and played so embarassingly bad, it affected the whole team even the game afterwards. In g3, only kuroky and zai played really well imo. Puppey did stupid shit, s4 did stupid shit, rtz feeding again

in game 2 kky was about as disgracing as rtz. TI2 did not really work out for Secret there.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3873
Oh god theyre out of control, WE NEED SECURITY
Skol
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3874
On August 07 2015 08:25 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 08:24 lolnoty wrote:
https://twitter.com/Fnggshka/status/629432258764472322

Oh God that's actually hilarious.


Thats really GG
Bora Pain minha porra!
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3875
lol iceiceice + LaNm <3
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3876
On August 07 2015 08:28 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2015 08:17 Gevna wrote:
So Secret most overrated / overhyped team in TI history ?



I wouldn't call them overrated in the sense that they weren't the best team going in (they clearly were), however it was very clear that they had holes in their gameplans, and it's just that teams weren't exploiting them. It's the most stacked Western team in a long time in terms of overall skill, however it goes to show that team chemistry and cohesiveness is far more important than overall skill. We see this in EG where they have a very high level of skill, but also have absolutely excellent teamwork, and are never negative even when they lose (unlike what we saw here where RTZ clearly just blew up).



Beyond just holes it seems like they sort of came in expecting to be in charge of the meta. It seems like for a lot of the year Secret was so prevalent that what they thought was the meta was the meta. But this is TI and other teams had other ideas and they didn't seem quite able to adjust as much as other teams have been (even with some good picks and some meta stuff like picking Luna).
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
August 06 2015 23:30 GMT
#3877
Ahead of schedule by 1.5 hours Woopwoop
Neosteel Enthusiast
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 23:31:32
August 06 2015 23:31 GMT
#3878
Also feel like this is now going to be the easiest TI of EG's life. After everything that's happened though I guess you can't really tell.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
August 06 2015 23:31 GMT
#3879
R.O.T.K PLEASE
secret - never again
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 06 2015 23:31 GMT
#3880
On August 07 2015 08:29 FHDH wrote:
Don't feel bad for anyone on Secret.

Puppey made personnel decisions Kuro backed up. Leadership changes were made from within the team. Interpersonal issues neutered their practice time. Picks were made personal.

They didn't deserve this TI. Collectively. Dota is a team game in more ways than the simple fact of there being other people in the game on your side.

They showed they weren't ready when they started playing. No single person on the team or their performance caused this outcome.

In the end, it just wasn't a TI winning team. Or it'd have won.

they shouldn't have kicked notail
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