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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 06 2015 05:30 GMT
#6681
On August 06 2015 14:27 beifru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 14:25 superstartran wrote:
Techies is a balanced and very beatable hero, it's just that Techies fundamentally changes the way is totally played, and really is the only hero in the game that does this. When he's on losing teams, he just forces opponents into long drawn out games, and when he's winning he suffocates opponents movement on the map, but doesn't offer much in pushes. I mean he's balanced, can be beaten, it's just that he is the absolute anti-thesis of fun.


Credibility zero after: "Techies is a balanced and very beatable hero".

Credibility negative after: "doesn't offer much in pushes".



He is balanced and beatable, he's just annoying as fuck to play against.

And he really doesn't offer much in pushes if you just jump him. What does he do? Basically just suicides or forcestaffs at most. If the teamfight drags out, yeah he can do alot, but most teamfights are decided insanely fast in competitive games, typically within seconds, so his cast times don't help him here.

If he was that broken, he'd be like Cancer Pony and literally banned every fucking match. That's not the case, because it's clearly easy to beat him if you know how to play against him, it's just a 70+ minute marathon most of the time.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 06 2015 05:30 GMT
#6682
PPD what a pick
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 06 2015 05:30 GMT
#6683
pick moltres pls
:)
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 06 2015 05:30 GMT
#6684
On August 06 2015 14:29 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 14:28 Azarkon wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:26 superstartran wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:23 Azarkon wrote:
Sumail has actually killed Cty in THREE out of FOUR games by himself in the first ten minutes.



Sumail was actually really losing the QoP vs Storm match-up, and CTY would have came out ahead if he just didn't get ultra cocky. The fact that he was only like 3-4 cs behind really shows how bad Sumail was getting outclassed. The 2nd game was all Sumail's teammates getting him the advantage.


Cty makes a mistake that gives Sumail a large advantage but he still > Sumail this is the best case of why Azarkon is necessary.


What service do you provide that makes you "necessary"?

he sees himself as a hardhitting truthteller or something
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6685
lol universe's "fav" hero
eX Killy
Profile Joined November 2012
Taiwan906 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6686
doesnt universe hate dark seer rofl
telling it like it is
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6687
ohhhhhh shit ww. man this fucking game.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6688
oh yesh CTY STORM
POGGERS
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6689
On August 06 2015 14:24 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 14:20 mutantmagnet wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:16 babylon wrote:
incoming techies ban



If so, they served their purpose for the next draft but it won't happen.


I would ban Techies and let two heroes through so you force them to choose to give you one.



Well it happened. A gross overreaction. I feel Lanm could've figured it out if he just thought about it for 5 minutes.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6690
On August 06 2015 14:29 icystorage wrote:
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On August 06 2015 14:28 juff wrote:
what was secret's techies counter? did they ever reveal it?

puppey talked about the techies counter and it's lightofheaven with the bkb

10/10 would watch again
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6691
After first picks, hero win rates definitely favor EG.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6692
On August 06 2015 14:30 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 14:27 superstartran wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:26 konadora wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:25 superstartran wrote:
Techies is a balanced and very beatable hero, it's just that Techies fundamentally changes the way is totally played, and really is the only hero in the game that does this. When he's on losing teams, he just forces opponents into long drawn out games, and when he's winning he suffocates opponents movement on the map, but doesn't offer much in pushes. I mean he's balanced, can be beaten, it's just that he is the absolute anti-thesis of fun.

except he does offer a lot in pushes

other than that, agreed with everything else



He sorta does in that he has good AoE and can clear mines if he is allowed to set things up, but he's almost useless in most fast paced fights.


Why would he be in a face paced fight? He just claims a lane. Are you going to go there and waste time?


agha techies is highly battle-able in fast paced fight is insane lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6693
Goddammit, BH.
AT.Epiphany
Profile Joined February 2015
India117 Posts
August 06 2015 05:31 GMT
#6694
On August 06 2015 14:30 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 14:27 beifru wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:25 superstartran wrote:
Techies is a balanced and very beatable hero, it's just that Techies fundamentally changes the way is totally played, and really is the only hero in the game that does this. When he's on losing teams, he just forces opponents into long drawn out games, and when he's winning he suffocates opponents movement on the map, but doesn't offer much in pushes. I mean he's balanced, can be beaten, it's just that he is the absolute anti-thesis of fun.


Credibility zero after: "Techies is a balanced and very beatable hero".

Credibility negative after: "doesn't offer much in pushes".



He is balanced and beatable, he's just annoying as fuck to play against.

And he really doesn't offer much in pushes if you just jump him. What does he do? Basically just suicides or forcestaffs at most. If the teamfight drags out, yeah he can do alot, but most teamfights are decided insanely fast in competitive games, typically within seconds, so his cast times don't help him here.

If he was that broken, he'd be like Cancer Pony and literally banned every fucking match. That's not the case, because it's clearly easy to beat him if you know how to play against him, it's just a 70+ minute marathon most of the time.


He will be banned every game after some teams get over the instinctive aversion and start picking him a lot.

bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
August 06 2015 05:32 GMT
#6695
On August 06 2015 14:30 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 14:29 ZeaL. wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:28 Azarkon wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:26 superstartran wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:23 Azarkon wrote:
Sumail has actually killed Cty in THREE out of FOUR games by himself in the first ten minutes.



Sumail was actually really losing the QoP vs Storm match-up, and CTY would have came out ahead if he just didn't get ultra cocky. The fact that he was only like 3-4 cs behind really shows how bad Sumail was getting outclassed. The 2nd game was all Sumail's teammates getting him the advantage.


Cty makes a mistake that gives Sumail a large advantage but he still > Sumail this is the best case of why Azarkon is necessary.


What service do you provide that makes you "necessary"?

he sees himself as a hardhitting truthteller or something


he's here to attract fights and get traffic. Making TI LR threads entertaining
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 06 2015 05:32 GMT
#6696
Another Luna ban, what the hell.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 06 2015 05:32 GMT
#6697
Think this has turned out okay for Ehome even with the techies ban. Not sure why EG firstbanned Gyro instead of Lesh, they could've made Ehome choose between giving away WW+1 or Gyro+1. If you're going to ban Lesh no matter what, why not do it first.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44243 Posts
August 06 2015 05:32 GMT
#6698
On August 06 2015 14:31 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 14:29 icystorage wrote:
On August 06 2015 14:28 juff wrote:
what was secret's techies counter? did they ever reveal it?

puppey talked about the techies counter and it's lightofheaven with the bkb

10/10 would watch again


this is a quote
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
August 06 2015 05:32 GMT
#6699
On August 06 2015 14:30 Verniy wrote:
"When Techies is in the game, you're just not allowed to play Dota."
Mad knows what's up.

Pretty accurate assessment.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
August 06 2015 05:32 GMT
#6700
On August 06 2015 14:25 superstartran wrote:
Techies is a balanced and very beatable hero, it's just that Techies fundamentally changes the way is totally played, and really is the only hero in the game that does this. When he's on losing teams, he just forces opponents into long drawn out games, and when he's winning he suffocates opponents movement on the map, but doesn't offer much in pushes. I mean he's balanced, can be beaten, it's just that he is the absolute anti-thesis of fun.



Techies is a very good pusher. Mine damage allows him to compete with Clinkz while Strafe is active.
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