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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 05 2015 02:49 GMT
#5121
On August 05 2015 11:49 Forte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 11:38 Azarkon wrote:
MVP is made up of the following:

A Korean American
A Korean Canadian/American?
A Korean Australian
A Korea Korean
A Singaporean

The first two are veterans who never achieved much while they were in America/Canada. The Korean Australian is their worst player but still looks to be improving over the tournament. So basically this team of players who on paper has no way to succeed, has succeeded, strictly through two years of hard work under the MVP organization.

How does that even happen?

It makes one think that Dota has a - what did they call it - elephant in the room.


QO is Korean Aussie, did you call him the worst player? ;p nah jokes I know who you meant


Is he?
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5122
“Give me Spectre, if I lose then I’ll chop my hand off!”
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5123
On August 05 2015 11:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 11:45 Acritter wrote:
On August 05 2015 11:43 juff wrote:
On August 05 2015 11:40 Reson wrote:
On August 05 2015 11:38 Azarkon wrote:
MVP is made up of the following:

A Korean American
A Korean Canadian/American?
A Korean Australian
A Korea Korean
A Singaporean

The first two are veterans who never achieved much while they were in America/Canada. The Korean Australian is their worst player but still looks to be improving over the tournament. So basically this team of players who on paper has no way to succeed, has succeeded, strictly through two years of hard work under the MVP organization.

How does that even happen?

It makes one think that Dota has a - what did they call it - elephant in the room.


Yeah no one practices.
Secret already stated they think they scrim very little.


Doesn't MVP have an amazing advantage in having a stable scrim partner that you can openly discuss tactics with? That's how korea got ahead in BW right? I don't understand why other organisations don't have multiple teams

Because that's double the cost for the organization for not a ton more advertising revenue and the sudden introduction of awful negative incentives because of the heavily prize-driven DOTA2 Esports scene.


Korea thinks about winning first, which is why they did it. Probably one of the most genius ideas for MobA since you cant really go all out in scrims against a competing team.

It's a brilliant idea for an organization, but it needs a lot of work before it can reliably work outside of Korea. In Korea, the scene is small enough and the power of organizations is built up well enough that MVP can reasonably snap up the entire top talent of the nation. Other scenes don't have those advantages. If DOTA2 continues for another ten years, I would expect to see multiple teams become commonplace or even the industry standard. It should take some time, though.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5124
Had a gut feeling they would go for spectre after seeing first 4 picks, but a part of me was still like: no way would they go spectre in this meta. Glad i'm proven wrong lol
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5125
Once again no stuns
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5126
Hi lumi?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5127
Spectre might be a game losing pick tho. Honestly, i hope Hao did not promise to cut his something off again this time because this time he can actually lose it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5128
That Tusk sigil rod thing.
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5129
--- Nuked ---
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5130
Oh comon Blitz.

It's C9. You always expect them to do something dumb.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5131
Let's hope Jacky Mao is James Bond.

Geddit?!?!?!
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11084 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5132
"Consistent top 5 finisher"

We were top 2
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5133
On August 05 2015 11:50 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Let's hope Jacky Mao is James Bond.

Geddit?!?!?!


no
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 05 2015 02:50 GMT
#5134
On August 05 2015 11:50 Kuroeeah wrote:
Hi lumi?


Lumi cast off his caster clothes to reveal what we knew all along. He was an EE disciple.
Moderator
beifru
Profile Joined November 2013
2164 Posts
August 05 2015 02:51 GMT
#5135
IDK about VG's picks... seems like a lose after 35 minutes draft. But they do have the tools to dismantle C9 from early till the late if the laning goes well.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
August 05 2015 02:51 GMT
#5136
think 2nd phase brood wouldve been really good for c9
posting on liquid sites in current year
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 05 2015 02:51 GMT
#5137
On August 05 2015 11:50 Sabu113 wrote:
"Consistent top 5 finisher"

We were top 2

Until the Secret/EG paradigm took over.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
August 05 2015 02:51 GMT
#5138
Damn I find the bird hypercreamy against spec
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
August 05 2015 02:51 GMT
#5139
On August 05 2015 11:50 plasmidghost wrote:
I want off EternaLEnVy's wild ride, but it never ends


If you do get off, the only path leads back. Just get on and enjoy yourself
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 05 2015 02:51 GMT
#5140
NICE, it's a spectre
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
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