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Wijnruit
Profile Joined October 2014
Brazil294 Posts
August 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#5201
What is the difference between the star and the TI trophy that appear in the side of players' names? SanSheng and Mu have both, mas Banana does not have the star.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#5202
On August 04 2015 10:47 Entropic wrote:
Blow up C9. They should get a totally new team

Mang0 and 4 of their CS players.

It'd probably be a better team.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#5203
On August 04 2015 10:45 ptbl wrote:
Guys, do you think it's bad of me for wishing every western team fails at TI5, so Team Liquid can have the best chance of signing good players?

No. Now that C9 failed anyways I completely agree. I just want to see a good and consistent performing Tl squad in a team game for once
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#5204
Im still waiting for a team to sponsor YeS
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:48:53
August 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#5205
On August 04 2015 10:44 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:42 Faruko wrote:
Fear retiring and... EG EternalEnvy

omg

I can't imagine the sparks if EE joined PPD's team.


There will be sparks if any headstrong player joins PPD's team because he is a very assertive captain.

That's not a bad thing for EG, of course, and their current team does well with it.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#5206
On August 04 2015 10:46 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:45 ptbl wrote:
Guys, do you think it's bad of me for wishing every western team fails at TI5, so Team Liquid can have the best chance of signing good players?


thats not how it works. Besides nearly everyone will shuffle anyway


Yeah, but if Secret and EG do well they will probably reschuffle within the GGA teams. If they implode, there's a higher chance they abandon GGA for other teams like Team Liquid.
Don't mind me
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2866 Posts
August 04 2015 01:48 GMT
#5207
On August 04 2015 10:38 babylon wrote:
So the last time I watched any DotA was TI4, and I certainly haven't played it since then ...

Can someone give me a really quick and dirty summary of the metagame shifts?

A comeback mechanic was added whereby you got extra gold for kills when you were behind. It was intended, I think, as a nerf to TI4-style deathball strats, but it went too far.

This incentivised turtling strats where you allowed yourself to lose the early/mid game, then held onto high ground with everything you had and waited for the other team to fuck up and get wiped trying to break base, at which point you got hella bank for the kills (because you were behind) and turned around to win the game. Sniper was the most memorable hero from this era, because he held high ground like a boss and Shrapnel was stupid-good. Troll Warlord was also very popular in this meta (his ult benefited Sniper and other right-click cores who were popular), as was Juggernaut (who had been buffed every patch in a row for about 8 bajillion years and was finally good). You also saw a lot of Magnus, primarily used for Empower on his right-click carries.

Eventually, Sniper, Troll, and Jugg were all nerfed, and the comeback mechanic was tuned downward, which helped eliminate the high ground turtle strats. In 6.84, a bunch of new items were introduced that made Int-based cores like Leshrac, Storm, and core Lina much more viable. Gyro also received some buffs, making him a top-tier carry (primarily due to his strong lane presence for a hero who scales so well late).

The current meta features a decent balance of push vs. farm vs. rat. Popular cores are Leshrac, Gyro, QoP, Tusk. Popular supports are Dazzle, Naga, Bounty. You see a surprisingly non-zero amount of Techies (often with Tusk for Snowball>Suicide combo).
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 04 2015 01:49 GMT
#5208
On August 04 2015 10:47 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:40 Orome wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:37 ptbl wrote:
So, you guys think C9 will disband after this TI or at least have roster changes?


We've already had rumours of 'the biggest western reshuffle ever' coming up, so yeah. I mean I half expect Secret to go their own ways even if they win TI.

Why would you expect Secret to disband/shuffle around? I feel like they could plateau off their brilliance and take TI6 if they adjust properly to patches.


Of course they could stay together and continue to be successful. It's just the impression I get from interviews when they're asked questions in that direction, but obviously I don't know (and quite likely they don't know for sure yet either).

I have the stinging suspicion that you and ptbl might be right. They've probably thinking about DotA 24/7 recently, and when they get a breather to really evaluate their lives, might decide that they're had enough.
kiss kiss fall in love
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
August 04 2015 01:49 GMT
#5209
On August 04 2015 10:46 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:45 Nocticate wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:41 Nocticate wrote:
I just want Fata to end up on a good team. Maybe he and misery will go to [A] or he'll get on EG or secret if one of them win and retirements happen.

Will they retire or "retire?"

If EG win, I fully expect Fear to retire for good. Aui is less likely, but also an option. As for secret, Puppey, s4, and/or Kuro might retire if they win, in descending order of likelihood. 2 Internationals under your belt should be enough for most people.

I'd actually expect them to be less likely to retire. They're competitive people, and have a good thing going with pro-DotA. They're established names, and are very good at persevering through good times and bad.

I think fear doesn't have much longer of a career because of his wrist. I think he has enough self-respect to want to end on a high note rather than fading into obscurity like Loda.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
August 04 2015 01:49 GMT
#5210
On August 04 2015 10:48 Wijnruit wrote:
What is the difference between the star and the TI trophy that appear in the side of players' names? SanSheng and Mu have both, mas Banana does not have the star.

Star I believe means the player participated at every TI. Trophy probably a TI win
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 01:49 GMT
#5211
On August 04 2015 10:48 Wijnruit wrote:
What is the difference between the star and the TI trophy that appear in the side of players' names? SanSheng and Mu have both, mas Banana does not have the star.

Wait, Mu has a star? The guy "only" been to 4 TIs, Sansheng was to 5 (part of original iG squad IIRC).
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 04 2015 01:49 GMT
#5212
On August 04 2015 10:47 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:44 FHDH wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:42 Faruko wrote:
Fear retiring and... EG EternalEnvy

omg

I can't imagine the sparks if EE joined PPD's team.


Apparently the offer was on the table but EE turned it down. EE also has a massive hard on for PPD


I thought EE was on the shortlist, him and Fear.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 04 2015 01:49 GMT
#5213
On August 04 2015 10:48 Faruko wrote:
Im still waiting for a team to sponsor YeS

Maybe Liquid could scoop them up!
kiss kiss fall in love
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
August 04 2015 01:49 GMT
#5214
does the youtube stream work for anyone btw? twitch is fine for me but since the ddos yt doesnt work.
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
August 04 2015 01:50 GMT
#5215
On August 04 2015 10:48 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:46 stuchiu wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:45 ptbl wrote:
Guys, do you think it's bad of me for wishing every western team fails at TI5, so Team Liquid can have the best chance of signing good players?


thats not how it works. Besides nearly everyone will shuffle anyway


Yeah, but if Secret and EG do well they will probably reschuffle within the GGA teams. If they implode, there's a higher chance they abandon GGA for other teams like Team Liquid.

first time I heard secret is a GGA team
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 04 2015 01:50 GMT
#5216
On August 04 2015 10:48 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:44 FHDH wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:42 Faruko wrote:
Fear retiring and... EG EternalEnvy

omg

I can't imagine the sparks if EE joined PPD's team.


There will be sparks if any headstrong player joins PPD's team because he is a very assertive captain.

That's not a bad thing for EG, of course, and their current team does well with it.

I think Aui is headstrong and he fits in. The thing about dota is a team following a bad plan really well will do better than a team following a good plan half-assed. You can have different ideas all you want, but you're still going to follow the plan.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 04 2015 01:50 GMT
#5217
On August 04 2015 10:48 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:47 Entropic wrote:
Blow up C9. They should get a totally new team

Mang0 and 4 of their CS players.

It'd probably be a better team.


You see mango at EVO? I dont want that feeder on my team.
Moderator
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 04 2015 01:50 GMT
#5218
On August 04 2015 10:49 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:48 Faruko wrote:
Im still waiting for a team to sponsor YeS

Maybe Liquid could scoop them up!

icystorage

your turn
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 04 2015 01:50 GMT
#5219
On August 04 2015 10:48 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:47 Entropic wrote:
Blow up C9. They should get a totally new team

Mang0 and 4 of their CS players.

It'd probably be a better team.

Just give skadoodle windrunner and he'll snipe off every kill
Glorious SEA doto
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 01:50 GMT
#5220
On August 04 2015 10:49 Nocticate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:46 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:45 Nocticate wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:41 IntoTheheart wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:41 Nocticate wrote:
I just want Fata to end up on a good team. Maybe he and misery will go to [A] or he'll get on EG or secret if one of them win and retirements happen.

Will they retire or "retire?"

If EG win, I fully expect Fear to retire for good. Aui is less likely, but also an option. As for secret, Puppey, s4, and/or Kuro might retire if they win, in descending order of likelihood. 2 Internationals under your belt should be enough for most people.

I'd actually expect them to be less likely to retire. They're competitive people, and have a good thing going with pro-DotA. They're established names, and are very good at persevering through good times and bad.

I think fear doesn't have much longer of a career because of his wrist. I think he has enough self-respect to want to end on a high note rather than fading into obscurity like Loda.

The beard is proof that he's planning to become a lumberjack after TI.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
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