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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:54:52
August 04 2015 01:54 GMT
#5241
On August 04 2015 10:48 ASoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:38 babylon wrote:
So the last time I watched any DotA was TI4, and I certainly haven't played it since then ...

Can someone give me a really quick and dirty summary of the metagame shifts?

n 6.84, a bunch of new items were introduced that made Int-based cores like Leshrac, Storm, and core Lina much more viable. Gyro also received some buffs, making him a top-tier carry (primarily due to his strong lane presence for a hero who scales so well late)

Quick question regarding this
Eventually none of the new items is core item in the carry int
Of course ocatarine is a good super late game item
But it isn't the first choise item
Instead it was the resurgence of bloodstone that create carry int

And eul to lesser extend, previously a support item
-Terran-
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 01:54 GMT
#5242
On August 04 2015 10:53 Chessz wrote:
so why would GGA/EG really want to contract envy? He makes way too many mistakes on the big stage while his farming/leadership remains mediocre

He's marketable.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:55:15
August 04 2015 01:54 GMT
#5243
On August 04 2015 10:53 Chessz wrote:
so why would GGA/EG really want to contract envy? He makes way too many mistakes on the big stage while his farming/leadership remains mediocre


The same reason they kept Incontrol and IdrA when they were on their downward spirals as players (and even re-recruited IdrA for their HotS team like crazy people, though I can't remember if that was EG for sure or not)

Dem sweet, sweet tweetbux
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
August 04 2015 01:54 GMT
#5244
why aren't they starting the game wth
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:55:27
August 04 2015 01:54 GMT
#5245
On August 04 2015 10:53 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:52 Orome wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:49 stuchiu wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:47 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:44 FHDH wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:42 Faruko wrote:
Fear retiring and... EG EternalEnvy

omg

I can't imagine the sparks if EE joined PPD's team.


Apparently the offer was on the table but EE turned it down. EE also has a massive hard on for PPD


I thought EE was on the shortlist, him and Fear.



EE's convinced that he could've joined EG over Fear if he'd wanted to (we don't actually know if that's true or not).

I'm actually really curious what EE's play would look like under a captain like ppd.


EE has already substituted for Fear in the past, remember? I think it was Starladder 9.


yes

edit: oh that wasn't actually a question lol. yeah i remember. bestest tournament ever. DK op.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 04 2015 01:54 GMT
#5246
On August 04 2015 10:50 opterown wrote:
gogo newbee~

yeeeee
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 04 2015 01:55 GMT
#5247
Korea will leave with broken spirits if they seriously lose to Team RPG.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:56:06
August 04 2015 01:55 GMT
#5248
On August 04 2015 10:53 Chessz wrote:
so why would GGA/EG really want to contract envy? He makes way too many mistakes on the big stage while his farming/leadership remains mediocre

Exposure. EE has many fans. Who knows maybe if he will be at EG his play might change and improve.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 04 2015 01:55 GMT
#5249
Newbee was the second to last team in the last big tournament they went to.

Are they going to pull that record this time?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 04 2015 01:56 GMT
#5250
On August 04 2015 10:55 Daralii wrote:
Korea will leave with broken spirits if they seriously lose to Team RPG.

Team RPG only have 1 burden, who ironically also happens to be fresh-est talent in the scene.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
August 04 2015 01:56 GMT
#5251
I think a lot will happen in the shuffle that people probably won't expect. I am pretty sure Secret for example will change a lot or completely.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
August 04 2015 01:56 GMT
#5252
On August 04 2015 10:52 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:51 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:42 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:37 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:32 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:30 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.


the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match


I think it'd be worse if they flopped to VG/Na'Vi.


c9 does this little thing where they give you hope and then crushes it


C9 has a really bad record against VG. I think VG understands how they approach the game very well. Of course VG has to make it to them first.


The only "favorite" teams who looked shittier than C9 are VG and iG. I don't have much hope left in this team but it is a possibility they beat VG


C9 lost to CDEC who were second place in group B. They only team they lost to was EG and they pretty much were playing from a disadvantage from the start cause they didnt know how to play against Techies. CDEC was undefeated against everybody else.


They worked all year to play worse than CDEC, which is their own fault. Also, take away the 'work' for iG and Newbee because they weren't even doing that.


Lol what do you mean? IG and Newbee show up to work everyday after their post TI holiday. They live where they work. They can't just go home whenever they want.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2866 Posts
August 04 2015 01:56 GMT
#5253
On August 04 2015 10:54 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:48 ASoo wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:38 babylon wrote:
So the last time I watched any DotA was TI4, and I certainly haven't played it since then ...

Can someone give me a really quick and dirty summary of the metagame shifts?

n 6.84, a bunch of new items were introduced that made Int-based cores like Leshrac, Storm, and core Lina much more viable. Gyro also received some buffs, making him a top-tier carry (primarily due to his strong lane presence for a hero who scales so well late)

Quick question regarding this
Eventually none of the new items is core item in the carry int
Of course ocatarine is a good super late game item
But it isn't the first choise item
Instead it was the resurgence of bloodstone that create carry int

And eul to lesser extend, previously a support item

Yeah that's fair, it's not just "they introduced Octarine," it's like "they introduced Octarine, and they buffed some heroes, and Bloodstone builds out of Soul Ring and is more popular, and people remembered that Lesh is good, and..."
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 04 2015 01:56 GMT
#5254
On August 04 2015 10:55 Daralii wrote:
Korea will leave with broken spirits if they seriously lose to Team RPG.

Losing to Team RPG would screw with a lot of peoples' evaluations of self-worth...
kiss kiss fall in love
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 04 2015 01:56 GMT
#5255
On August 04 2015 10:54 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:53 Chessz wrote:
so why would GGA/EG really want to contract envy? He makes way too many mistakes on the big stage while his farming/leadership remains mediocre


The same reason they kept Incontrol and IdrA when they were on their downward spirals as players (and even re-recruited IdrA for their HotS team like crazy people, though I can't remember if that was EG for sure or not)

Dem sweet, sweet tweetbux

Well Incontrol end up being a great choice, he is a pretty decent host
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 04 2015 01:56 GMT
#5256
--- Nuked ---
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 01:57:18
August 04 2015 01:57 GMT
#5257
On August 04 2015 10:56 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:52 Azarkon wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:51 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:42 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:37 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:32 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:30 bagels21 wrote:
On August 04 2015 10:29 Sabu113 wrote:
God I am saltier than PPD.

How did they fuck this up so badly. Jesus fucking christ. They should all retire after TI. Never going to win one. Bleh.


the worst shit is if they beat VG/Na'Vi then flop in their next match


I think it'd be worse if they flopped to VG/Na'Vi.


c9 does this little thing where they give you hope and then crushes it


C9 has a really bad record against VG. I think VG understands how they approach the game very well. Of course VG has to make it to them first.


The only "favorite" teams who looked shittier than C9 are VG and iG. I don't have much hope left in this team but it is a possibility they beat VG


C9 lost to CDEC who were second place in group B. They only team they lost to was EG and they pretty much were playing from a disadvantage from the start cause they didnt know how to play against Techies. CDEC was undefeated against everybody else.


They worked all year to play worse than CDEC, which is their own fault. Also, take away the 'work' for iG and Newbee because they weren't even doing that.


Lol what do you mean? IG and Newbee show up to work everyday after their post TI holiday. They live where they work. They can't just go home whenever they want.


Show up, but didn't work. There's a difference.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 04 2015 01:57 GMT
#5258
gogo MVP, pick iobristle and pwn :D

Also, can we say without trolling now that VG with Black^ would do better or have we to wait until VG gets eliminated ? Well at least they wouldn't have done worse, this much is pretty 100%
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 04 2015 01:57 GMT
#5259
NwewBee for TI5 Champs amirite?
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 04 2015 01:57 GMT
#5260
On August 04 2015 10:55 Fwizzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 10:53 Chessz wrote:
so why would GGA/EG really want to contract envy? He makes way too many mistakes on the big stage while his farming/leadership remains mediocre

Exposure. EE has many fans. Who knows maybe if he will be at EG his play might change and improve.

EG's fans dwarf Envy's.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
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