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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
August 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#2421
On August 04 2015 05:22 anonymitylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 05:21 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:14 Ryan54x wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:12 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:04 Plansix wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:03 Kabras wrote:
On August 04 2015 04:59 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 04:52 Kabras wrote:
it takes a team that doesn't screw up to beat lgd. if there's one thing xiao8 has been doing this tournament, it's drafting better late game every time. lgd's so annoying to watch actually, they just get behind in every way and then they farm and they wait for you to fuck up(silent). and once you do, ur fucked. maybe the high ground dota of last patch isn't as dead as we may all assume.


So you want Dota where you can't punish mistakes?
6.82 & 6.83 high ground was stupid because of the broken comeback mechanic they implemented as a knee jerk reaction to all the TI4 complaints which weren't justified. A team can't 5 man push if you are able to fight/kill them.

6.82 & 6.83 wasn't Dota.


i never said i want different dota. i'm just annoyed by lgd's "we won't do shit until you force the issue and fuck up" style. then again, xiao8 has to win with yao in his team so i kind of get why he does it

That is how drafting works. EG does the same thing some times. Dota is all about timings and hitting them. If you draft a team that can't do shit after a specific timing, that's how the game ends.


I would even say that it is one of EG's (ppd) biggest strength is to set up the game so that the only possible way for the other team to win is to outplay/force the issue while all the EG players need to do is play within their comfort zone.



I just hope Sumail isn't overly aggressive to the point where he starts making game ending mistakes. He is really young and this is the biggest tournament of his career so far! I can wait to see how they do. For now, I hope LGD pulls through and we can all grab some of those bracket points!


I think ppd is really good at adapting to the strength of his players. When he had Rtz, he strategized to maximize his farming tendencies and when he picked up SuMail he made it so that if SuMail's plays are successful his team reaps a large reward.

Farming is within Rtz's comfort zone. Hyper aggression is within SuMail's comfort zone. I think PPD does prefer Rtz over SuMail when it comes to that aspect since it's lower risk.


i mean sumail already performed well at dac for a million dollars i think he might be fine lol

This ain't DAC and it ain't January either.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#2422
Lol, Bounty is just meat
The Real Power~
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#2423
AHAHA can't believe they got him AGAIN.
Long live the King of Wings
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
August 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#2424
bounty hunter the struggles....
Moderator我们是个踏实的赞助商模式俱乐部
SleepyDreams
Profile Joined July 2012
600 Posts
August 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#2425
Empire failed at what LGD did sucessfully in game 1 - not dying while split-pushing
Procake
Profile Joined December 2013
3803 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2426
Empire with the hot serving of apple crumble pie
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2427
bounty doing nothing this game , 4v5
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2428
Maybe should be definitely
Proud owner of Fnatic and Clutch Gamers's Discussion Page
fixed_point
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany4891 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2429
Empire this is how you seige high ground with your first aegis.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2430
this is why blink is useful on bh
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2431
--- Nuked ---
Ryan54x
Profile Joined December 2014
United States13 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2432
On August 04 2015 05:21 Reson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 05:14 Ryan54x wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:12 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:04 Plansix wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:03 Kabras wrote:
On August 04 2015 04:59 Reson wrote:
On August 04 2015 04:52 Kabras wrote:
it takes a team that doesn't screw up to beat lgd. if there's one thing xiao8 has been doing this tournament, it's drafting better late game every time. lgd's so annoying to watch actually, they just get behind in every way and then they farm and they wait for you to fuck up(silent). and once you do, ur fucked. maybe the high ground dota of last patch isn't as dead as we may all assume.


So you want Dota where you can't punish mistakes?
6.82 & 6.83 high ground was stupid because of the broken comeback mechanic they implemented as a knee jerk reaction to all the TI4 complaints which weren't justified. A team can't 5 man push if you are able to fight/kill them.

6.82 & 6.83 wasn't Dota.


i never said i want different dota. i'm just annoyed by lgd's "we won't do shit until you force the issue and fuck up" style. then again, xiao8 has to win with yao in his team so i kind of get why he does it

That is how drafting works. EG does the same thing some times. Dota is all about timings and hitting them. If you draft a team that can't do shit after a specific timing, that's how the game ends.


I would even say that it is one of EG's (ppd) biggest strength is to set up the game so that the only possible way for the other team to win is to outplay/force the issue while all the EG players need to do is play within their comfort zone.



I just hope Sumail isn't overly aggressive to the point where he starts making game ending mistakes. He is really young and this is the biggest tournament of his career so far! I can wait to see how they do. For now, I hope LGD pulls through and we can all grab some of those bracket points!


I think ppd is really good at adapting to the strength of his players. When he had Rtz, he strategized to maximize his farming tendencies and when he picked up SuMail he made it so that if SuMail's plays are successful his team reaps a large reward.

Farming is within Rtz's comfort zone. Hyper aggression is within SuMail's comfort zone. I think PPD does prefer Rtz over SuMail when it comes to that aspect since it's lower risk.


Part of the reason RTZ left EG was because RTZ didn't like the way PPD drafted if I am not mistaken. I think I understand what you meant, and that is PPD prefers a less aggressive style of play, and I would tend to agree. I couldn't agree with you more though about how smart he is to realize that he needs to draft around Sumail because that kid is good and they have it figured out.
"We all hurt, we all need, we all cry, we all bleed" -ABR
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2433
Wow, Empire tilted after game 1
The Real Power~
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2434
EMPIRE WTF
WHY DID YOU ABSORB C9s POWERS?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2435
Nice and clean 0-5-0 Bounty, Empire know how to lower the winrate for popular heroes.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2436
My god Maybe is so good
tsiisus
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland854 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2437
wut was resolution doing
Wake up sheeple!
Gotuso
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands733 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2438
You'd think this BH would play safe at some point...
Baozi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1191 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2439
LOL that aegis wait out!
"Universe is very spacey, we called him space man. He made a lot of space." - Arteezy
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
August 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#2440
Maybe ... wut a playa
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