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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 06 2015 10:08 GMT
#641
On June 06 2015 19:07 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
i really really hope c9 don't do an earlypick carry naga here

it's something i thought of as a bad response to how the first game went... secret's playstyle is very hard to actually naga against imo...

I believe c9 always 4th pick Naga when they do.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
June 06 2015 10:08 GMT
#642
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.


Don't forget Team DK.
MMA | Life | Classic | Happy | Team Empire | Team Spirit
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
June 06 2015 10:09 GMT
#643
On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.

secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them

TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then

Or it's S4's draftstyle, go for the same draft again and again, everyone knows it but his team masters it beyond the reach of the other teams. That's how alliance won TI.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
cravin74
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1088 Posts
June 06 2015 10:09 GMT
#644
On June 06 2015 19:08 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:07 RandyL wrote:
this is the tourney of china falling

the summit and dac started that shit

They be playing the long con man.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
June 06 2015 10:09 GMT
#645
On June 06 2015 19:01 Azarkon wrote:
I look at the stream list and Burning and 430 are streaming with 150k viewers each...

Pretty obvious iG no longer cares. Best case study of why Chinese Dota failed these last few tournaments.

lel taking chinese stream numbers at face value
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 10:11:13
June 06 2015 10:10 GMT
#646
On June 06 2015 19:08 Ingvar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.


Don't forget Team DK.

2013-2014 DK looked like 2014-2015 VG for the most part tbh, and VG looks to have same problem DK did after 6.84 (6.81 in case of DK) dropped.
On June 06 2015 19:09 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.

secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them

TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then

Or it's S4's draftstyle, go for the same draft again and again, everyone knows it but his team masters it beyond the reach of the other teams. That's how alliance won TI.

Alliance actually had multitude of stuff to draft around. Be it wisp, furion, chen or support naga. Or even batrider.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 06 2015 10:10 GMT
#647
On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.

secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them

TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then

Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams.

Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44192 Posts
June 06 2015 10:11 GMT
#648
On June 06 2015 19:08 Ingvar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.


Don't forget Team DK.

DK wasn't the top of the world anymore pre-TI4 .. after SL9 they were losing finals (against eg on summi1 and IG 4-1 then on some chinese tournament)
this is a quote
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 10:13:38
June 06 2015 10:12 GMT
#649
On June 06 2015 19:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig stream together and do stacked pubs

consequently their recent tourney games feel like "strong pub picks" without much deeper thought into it


It's not even that terrible to stream after a loss, but Burning and 430 are streaming practically every other day. I see them streaming before tournament matches, after tournament losses, during periods when they ought to be preparing, etc. No wonder iG is getting shittier by the minute.

To VG's credit, I don't see them streaming a lot. But no team is capable of improving by itself. It's the entire region that has to step it up.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 06 2015 10:12 GMT
#650
On June 06 2015 19:10 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:09 nojok wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.

secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them

TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then

Or it's S4's draftstyle, go for the same draft again and again, everyone knows it but his team masters it beyond the reach of the other teams. That's how alliance won TI.

Alliance actually had multitude of stuff to draft around. Be it wisp, furion, chen or support naga. Or even batrider.

so does secret... but it's still a certain core set of drafts
posting on liquid sites in current year
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 10:14:15
June 06 2015 10:12 GMT
#651
classic envy

edit: lmao my stream rewound to hours ago wtf
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 06 2015 10:12 GMT
#652
On June 06 2015 19:10 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.

secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them

TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then

Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams.

Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago


Kind of an amusing post considering sc2 fans for example complain that the game in the long run gets stale as it stabilizes around fewer strategies.

I guess you can't win them all
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
June 06 2015 10:13 GMT
#653
Anyone know what song is playing on stream right now?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44192 Posts
June 06 2015 10:13 GMT
#654
On June 06 2015 19:12 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig stream together and do stacked pubs

consequently their recent tourney games feel like "strong pub picks" without much deeper thought into it


It's not even that terrible to stream after a loss, but Burning and 430 are streaming practically every other day. I see them streaming before tournament matches, after tournament losses, etc. No wonder iG is getting shittier by the minute.

To VG's credit, I don't see them streaming a lot. But no team is capable of improving by itself. It's the entire region that has to step it up.

rtz streams alot before tournament even between tournaments rofl

did you also say this TI4 or pre-TI4 ?
this is a quote
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 06 2015 10:14 GMT
#655
On June 06 2015 19:12 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:10 Faruko wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.

secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them

TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then

Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams.

Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago


Kind of an amusing post considering sc2 fans for example complain that the game in the long run gets stale as it stabilizes around fewer strategies.

I guess you can't win them all

i mean people were complaining about what 6.83 made pro games look like for quite awhile... but after a patch you're always left with the "what if" feeling of how you think the patch might've continued to evolve, even if it was evolving at a seemingly-intolerable pace
posting on liquid sites in current year
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
June 06 2015 10:14 GMT
#656
On June 06 2015 19:12 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 19:10 Faruko wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:
On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...

this TI is for secret to lose looks like.

secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them

TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then

Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams.

Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago


Kind of an amusing post considering sc2 fans for example complain that the game in the long run gets stale as it stabilizes around fewer strategies.

I guess you can't win them all

SC BW fans though would complain exactly about patches happening. It's all perspective!
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 06 2015 10:14 GMT
#657
On June 06 2015 19:13 Mouzone wrote:
Anyone know what song is playing on stream right now?


ffxiv enjoyer
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 06 2015 10:14 GMT
#658


song right now
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44192 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 10:15:24
June 06 2015 10:15 GMT
#659
stancel or opterown ? who's lying ? (could be the same song but too lazy to open both)
this is a quote
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 06 2015 10:15 GMT
#660
On June 06 2015 19:15 goody153 wrote:
stancel or opterown ? who's lying ? (could be the same song but too lazy to open both)

we're both right the songs just changed over
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
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