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On June 06 2015 19:23 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 19:22 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On June 06 2015 19:14 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:10 Faruko wrote:On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...
this TI is for secret to lose looks like. secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams. Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago Kind of an amusing post considering sc2 fans for example complain that the game in the long run gets stale as it stabilizes around fewer strategies. I guess you can't win them all  SC BW fans though would complain exactly about patches happening. It's all perspective! bw patches were so sparse and light on balance changes that it's hard to say how people would've reacted the biggest reaction i remember is when one patch introduced random 5 ms sleeps that lagged shit up and r1ch had to make a fix with his wizardry map rotations pretty much were the balance changes effectively On June 06 2015 19:15 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:13 goody153 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig stream together and do stacked pubs
consequently their recent tourney games feel like "strong pub picks" without much deeper thought into it It's not even that terrible to stream after a loss, but Burning and 430 are streaming practically every other day. I see them streaming before tournament matches, after tournament losses, etc. No wonder iG is getting shittier by the minute. To VG's credit, I don't see them streaming a lot. But no team is capable of improving by itself . It's the entire region that has to step it up. rtz streams alot before tournament even between tournaments rofl did you also say this TI4 or pre-TI4 ? Does he? Because before DAC he said he was disgusted by pro players attending DAC streaming pubs before the tournament when they ought to be preparing. yeah he consistently alternates between admonishing streamers and then hypocritically doing it, people call him out on it he's just a boy Eh BW isnt a good example becaues it's a game from a different generation, as well as accidentally being the best game of all time I don't know of any other game that evolved as much as bw did, without any developer support techinically we can still call the map creation as support
blizzard didn't make the pro maps though, korean mapmakers did for the most part
(and shitty wcg mapmakers with their shitty wcg maps)
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SB and Tusk seems ehhhhhhh.
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Italy12246 Posts
On June 06 2015 19:23 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 19:22 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On June 06 2015 19:14 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:10 Faruko wrote:On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...
this TI is for secret to lose looks like. secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams. Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago Kind of an amusing post considering sc2 fans for example complain that the game in the long run gets stale as it stabilizes around fewer strategies. I guess you can't win them all SC BW fans though would complain exactly about patches happening. It's all perspective! bw patches were so sparse and light on balance changes that it's hard to say how people would've reacted the biggest reaction i remember is when one patch introduced random 5 ms sleeps that lagged shit up and r1ch had to make a fix with his wizardry map rotations pretty much were the balance changes effectively On June 06 2015 19:15 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:13 goody153 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig stream together and do stacked pubs
consequently their recent tourney games feel like "strong pub picks" without much deeper thought into it It's not even that terrible to stream after a loss, but Burning and 430 are streaming practically every other day. I see them streaming before tournament matches, after tournament losses, etc. No wonder iG is getting shittier by the minute. To VG's credit, I don't see them streaming a lot. But no team is capable of improving by itself . It's the entire region that has to step it up. rtz streams alot before tournament even between tournaments rofl did you also say this TI4 or pre-TI4 ? Does he? Because before DAC he said he was disgusted by pro players attending DAC streaming pubs before the tournament when they ought to be preparing. yeah he consistently alternates between admonishing streamers and then hypocritically doing it, people call him out on it he's just a boy Eh BW isnt a good example becaues it's a game from a different generation, as well as accidentally being the best game of all time I don't know of any other game that evolved as much as bw did, without any developer support techinically we can still call the map creation as support
Blizzard didn't make the competitive BW maps, except Lost Temple i guess.
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On June 06 2015 19:24 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 19:23 goody153 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:22 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On June 06 2015 19:14 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:10 Faruko wrote:On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...
this TI is for secret to lose looks like. secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams. Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago Kind of an amusing post considering sc2 fans for example complain that the game in the long run gets stale as it stabilizes around fewer strategies. I guess you can't win them all SC BW fans though would complain exactly about patches happening. It's all perspective! bw patches were so sparse and light on balance changes that it's hard to say how people would've reacted the biggest reaction i remember is when one patch introduced random 5 ms sleeps that lagged shit up and r1ch had to make a fix with his wizardry map rotations pretty much were the balance changes effectively On June 06 2015 19:15 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:13 goody153 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig stream together and do stacked pubs
consequently their recent tourney games feel like "strong pub picks" without much deeper thought into it It's not even that terrible to stream after a loss, but Burning and 430 are streaming practically every other day. I see them streaming before tournament matches, after tournament losses, etc. No wonder iG is getting shittier by the minute. To VG's credit, I don't see them streaming a lot. But no team is capable of improving by itself . It's the entire region that has to step it up. rtz streams alot before tournament even between tournaments rofl did you also say this TI4 or pre-TI4 ? Does he? Because before DAC he said he was disgusted by pro players attending DAC streaming pubs before the tournament when they ought to be preparing. yeah he consistently alternates between admonishing streamers and then hypocritically doing it, people call him out on it he's just a boy Eh BW isnt a good example becaues it's a game from a different generation, as well as accidentally being the best game of all time I don't know of any other game that evolved as much as bw did, without any developer support techinically we can still call the map creation as support Blizzard didn't make the competitive BW maps, except Lost Temple i guess.
On June 06 2015 19:24 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 19:23 goody153 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:22 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On June 06 2015 19:14 lolfail9001 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Teoita wrote:On June 06 2015 19:10 Faruko wrote:On June 06 2015 19:06 clusen wrote:On June 06 2015 19:04 jojos11 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:01 haduken wrote:
holy cow...
this TI is for secret to lose looks like. secret draw to much attention before TI.i bet all the top teams have pocket strats saved for them TI is about 2 months away, a lot of stuff can happen and change until then Which is the problem of esports all around IMO the change of a meta/patch can make or break teams. Icefrog would had nerf Messi and ronald about 4 years ago Kind of an amusing post considering sc2 fans for example complain that the game in the long run gets stale as it stabilizes around fewer strategies. I guess you can't win them all SC BW fans though would complain exactly about patches happening. It's all perspective! bw patches were so sparse and light on balance changes that it's hard to say how people would've reacted the biggest reaction i remember is when one patch introduced random 5 ms sleeps that lagged shit up and r1ch had to make a fix with his wizardry map rotations pretty much were the balance changes effectively On June 06 2015 19:15 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:13 goody153 wrote:On June 06 2015 19:12 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:05 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ig stream together and do stacked pubs
consequently their recent tourney games feel like "strong pub picks" without much deeper thought into it It's not even that terrible to stream after a loss, but Burning and 430 are streaming practically every other day. I see them streaming before tournament matches, after tournament losses, etc. No wonder iG is getting shittier by the minute. To VG's credit, I don't see them streaming a lot. But no team is capable of improving by itself . It's the entire region that has to step it up. rtz streams alot before tournament even between tournaments rofl did you also say this TI4 or pre-TI4 ? Does he? Because before DAC he said he was disgusted by pro players attending DAC streaming pubs before the tournament when they ought to be preparing. yeah he consistently alternates between admonishing streamers and then hypocritically doing it, people call him out on it he's just a boy Eh BW isnt a good example becaues it's a game from a different generation, as well as accidentally being the best game of all time I don't know of any other game that evolved as much as bw did, without any developer support techinically we can still call the map creation as support blizzard didn't make the pro maps though, korean mapmakers did for the most part (and shitty wcg mapmakers with their shitty wcg maps)
yeah but still it isn't completely left alone .. it's still technically being balanced through maps
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On June 06 2015 19:19 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 19:18 Kamisamanachi wrote:On June 06 2015 19:03 haduken wrote:On June 06 2015 19:01 Azarkon wrote:
So I look at the stream list and Burning and 430 are streaming with 150k viewers each...
Yea pretty obvious iG no longer cares. Best case study of why Chinese Dota failed these last few tournaments. they should retire and swim in that stream $$ and leave dota to the young boys that was the initial plan and LaNm already explained it why streaming gives more stable money to them...but seems like TI prize pool pulled them all in. why not do both !
looks like IG's plan..i will be surprised if IG somehow comes out stronger during TI despite of all the streaming and stuff.
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ds bounty rofl the pubcombo
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On June 06 2015 19:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
ds bounty rofl the pubcombo
That's what you do against Clown9. Pubcombos!
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On June 06 2015 19:20 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 19:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
yeah he consistently alternates between admonishing streamers and then hypocritically doing it, people call him out on it
he's just a boy Well, he does take his life cues from Grey's Anatomy. Regardless, I think Chinese pros ought to know that their only advantage in past tournaments have been their willingness to practice harder than Western players; take that away, and what do you have?
they scrim everyday just like everybody else .. right now sure western is better but obviously china can bounce back unless you are willing to forget events like ti4 or ti2
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enigma gotta be tempting for secret here?
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The real question...
Will we see lvl1 doppel at lvl17 again ?
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On June 06 2015 19:25 lolfail9001 wrote:That's what you do against Clown9. Pubcombos!
c9 also doing some weird SB and tusk combo
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i dont really like the zeus pick too much... pretty much ensures sf gets ridiculously big ridiculously fast and puts tons of pressure on tusk/sb to roam onto him, which secret will be aware of and countergank...
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On June 06 2015 19:26 CAPSLOCKED wrote:
enigma gotta be tempting for secret here?
That would leave them with no lane support, which is a little greedy. Though they do have strong solo laners, so maybe.
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On June 06 2015 19:26 CAPSLOCKED wrote:
enigma gotta be tempting for secret here?
that's too greedy they can't leave rtz and s4 completely alone .. BH isn't gonna cut it
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On June 06 2015 19:26 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2015 19:20 Azarkon wrote:On June 06 2015 19:16 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
yeah he consistently alternates between admonishing streamers and then hypocritically doing it, people call him out on it
he's just a boy Well, he does take his life cues from Grey's Anatomy. Regardless, I think Chinese pros ought to know that their only advantage in past tournaments have been their willingness to practice harder than Western players; take that away, and what do you have? they scrim everyday just like everybody else .. right now sure western is better but obviously china can bounce back unless you are willing to forget events like ti4 or ti2
only TI3 is really the only TI that people talk about because of Alliance.
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i just realized c9 could misery sb bdn zeus bone7 tusk and pick the fata hero...
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On June 06 2015 19:26 Faruko wrote:
The real question...
Will we see lvl1 doppel at lvl17 again ?
You mean, will he get to lv17 this game?
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c9 lost
this draft gets countered by vac requiem lol
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On June 06 2015 19:28 Faruko wrote:
ez lane stage for Secret
yeah 4 melee's while SB and tusk would roam .. still how the fuck are they gonna lane without getting rekt
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EPT
