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On January 22 2015 01:18 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 01:15 DucK- wrote: xcalibur confirmed just meepo/tinker abuser. I mean it's fine if he plays a limited amount of heroes really well but they should pick him stuff he's good at, not this.
I just think that if you have really high MMR just because you play primarily meepo/ta/tinker/naga/tb, then your MMR is actually inflated and not a true representation of your actual ability.
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Bamboe has still got it!!
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kuroky and envy plays a good morph in the west not just illidan caster
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Oh, Morph was also last pick. So they picked morph into this lineup.
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morph is fine vs these heroes if he isn't like 10cs down at 5 minutes due to incompetence
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Sadly though, Excalibur making Bamboe look good lol. I missed the start of the game, how did Morph get THAT far behind?
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On January 22 2015 01:28 Conquest101 wrote: Sadly though, Excalibur making Bamboe look good lol. I missed the start of the game, how did Morph get THAT far behind? he died to solo lc twice after killing him once with lion gank
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Xcalibur- The second most overhype new talent in Dota 2.
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On January 22 2015 01:25 Sn0_Man wrote: morph is fine vs these heroes if he isn't like 10cs down at 5 minutes due to incompetence I think he was down like 20 at 8 minutes after that.
Usually you can't really pin the blame for a game on a player, but that... I foresee excalibur kicks in the future. Especially considering they probably have 3 better carry players on the team.
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On January 22 2015 01:29 Kabras wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 01:28 Conquest101 wrote: Sadly though, Excalibur making Bamboe look good lol. I missed the start of the game, how did Morph get THAT far behind? he died to solo lc twice after killing him once with lion gank he was behind in CS even before that though for literally no reason
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On January 22 2015 01:23 goody153 wrote: kuroky and envy plays a good morph in the west not just illidan caster Envy and Kuro are both around 50% wr on morph on datdota, so not really that great. Arteezy and Illidan are the only good western morphs I could find.
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It's partly due to hanni started roaming too early. Needed to zone out LC to get the snowballing off. ES could not really help ease off the pressure for TA vs orge and puck.
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On January 22 2015 01:30 babysimba wrote: It's partly due to hanni started roaming too early. Needed to zone out LC to get the snowballing off. ES could not really help ease off the pressure for TA vs orge and puck. That's part of why TA lost mid, sure. But we're talking about the fact that an almost fully morphed agi morph was getting outcs'd by a firstblooded tiny who missed the first 2 waves of creeps.
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On January 22 2015 01:30 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 01:23 goody153 wrote: kuroky and envy plays a good morph in the west not just illidan caster Envy and Kuro are both around 50% wr on morph on datdota, so not really that great. Arteezy and Illidan are the only good western morphs I could find. Era played a pretty good morph but he's exactly 50% on it too. Hilariously, Jeyo has the highest winrate of any western player (14-3).
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On January 22 2015 01:30 blobrus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 01:23 goody153 wrote: kuroky and envy plays a good morph in the west not just illidan caster Envy and Kuro are both around 50% wr on morph on datdota, so not really that great. Arteezy and Illidan are the only good western morphs I could find. envy proved he can play a good morph vs a top chinese team during TI4(IG) that's very convincing ..
arteezy winrate is questionable since EG almost never lost on the western scene except against chinese(VG) and i think kky plays a better morph than rtz
there is a difference in quality of opponents
On January 22 2015 01:35 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 01:30 blobrus wrote:On January 22 2015 01:23 goody153 wrote: kuroky and envy plays a good morph in the west not just illidan caster Envy and Kuro are both around 50% wr on morph on datdota, so not really that great. Arteezy and Illidan are the only good western morphs I could find. Era played a pretty good morph but he's exactly 50% on it too. Hilariously, Jeyo has the highest winrate of any western player (14-3).
can we even call Jeyo a western player ? lol (since he plays for rave :D ) also does black play morph ? i don't remember at all (i know he's considered from cn scene now)
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If you checked the CS score, LC was keeping up close in CS with the tide CS even with tide's good start. It wasn't a free farm lane for morph. I'm guesing they let LC leech too much XP, and overwhelming odds rekt full agi morph with his range.
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On January 22 2015 01:32 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 01:30 babysimba wrote: It's partly due to hanni started roaming too early. Needed to zone out LC to get the snowballing off. ES could not really help ease off the pressure for TA vs orge and puck. That's part of why TA lost mid, sure. But we're talking about the fact that an almost fully morphed agi morph was getting outcs'd by a firstblooded tiny who missed the first 2 waves of creeps. he didn't actually lose, the puck was even cs which can be considered a win for puck since ta is favored. but ogre helped him a lot so it wasn't a real 1v1. and yea, ogre helping mid, wisp sticking to tiny bot, morphling gets a kill on lc with lion's help and then he throws and doesn't farm anything. maybe xcalibur just had a bad game, but i got the impression that he actually can't farm. if that's true it's pretty awful
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Doesn't Jeyo play in the SEA scene now or something? Can't really compare him to other western carries. Also I think puck had some assistance early, I wasn't watching the beginning of the game too closely though.
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