Looks manly as fuck to me. BB/Cent/Dazzle run around as an unkillable pack making space for Lycan to farm up and then go hit buildings.

I don't get what the Visage is for though...

familiar with howl is pretty good

KristofferAG

Norway25712 Posts

January 29 2015 08:03 GMT

#523

Should be fun playing Rubick v Na'Vi's lineup so far.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

January 29 2015 08:05 GMT

#524

On January 29 2015 17:01 Azarkon wrote:

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I just still don't understand how you can have a 2.5 million prize pool tourney, and have players talking during a pause in the game about how awful this tournament is because of the lag.

Cannot believe that these tech issues are that hard to deal with. Low quality production crew or equipment is likely.

I mean I don't think I've ever seen a Chinese tournament with out these issues. Theres a reason I didn't buy the compendium, because so far the tournament has sunk to my expectations wonderfully.

Honestly, I don't know why I get hopeful anymore. Always they'll try to make the tournament seem exciting like, that they fixed previous issues... Yeah no.

Still to this day, 95% of Dota 2 associations are a complete joke. This tournament will hurt Dota more than help it if it keeps going like this.

Edit: Apologies for my bitching.

even the big bad LoL worlds have technical problems, this is not limited to DOTA2.

BW never had these screw ups. Quake, Counter Strike... 10 years ago the average tournament with a prize pool of $1k was ran smoother. Just recently my memories of law tournaments have been really bad in Dota 2. Summit 2 filled with plague, and many others, and now supposedly the 2nd biggest tournament of the year also.

BW never had these screw ups because it was run by Korea. China is not Korea. The rest of the world is not Korea. Korea has the fastest/second fastest internet speed in the world. It has the most advanced online gaming infrastructure in the world. It's nice to pretend that professional gaming is actually professional outside of Korea but in the end, the facts speak for themselves.

I think Riot's LCS, Blizzard's WCS, and Valve's TI are the only professionally run video game competitions outside of Korea. Everyone else is basically an amateur.

BW never had those screw ups not because it had nice internet connections. But because all the games in serious leagues were LANs with TV translation of observers. And if we remember BW system requirements it kind of becomes obvious that having a PC fuck-ups was next to impossible there. And even then.... POWER OUTAGE.

You know, there was a time when BW actually taxed your PC and network connection. Hindsight is 30/20. The bottom line is that KESPA kept up with the technology. In BW days they had PCs capable of handling BW. In SC 2 days they had PCs capable of handling SC 2. LoL actually requires less PC specs than SC 2 so that's entirely moot. And they had the great internet speeds that don't cause games to lag every 10-20 minutes regardless of whether they were playing on LAN/online, and network infrastructure that wasn't ultra-vulnerable to DDOS.

it's cool to cite power outages except power outages occur once in a blue moon while tournament lag occurs every 20 minutes.

You missed my main point: when your games does not care about network connection (i mean, Internet connection, and we all know that almost everyone in Korea in 21st century played BW on LAN) the probability of lag related fuck-ups goes down. Seriously goes down. Also, good luck trying to remotely DoS a computer that has no internet connection to speak of.

I didn't miss it. I agree with it. But you have to explain why they didn't have issues even when they moved into games that didn't have LAN - for example SC 2 and Dota 2.

Can't tell for Korean Dota 2, can't watch it, as for Korean SC2, first and foremost: SC2 is p2p, even though it has no LAN, that leaves much less problems with network connections by design (as in, server plays little role in actual game) (downside: maphacks), and SC2 LANs (Korean ones) actually have little people in actual lobby, around 5 IIRC. Compare that to typical Dota 2 lobby and Dota 2 being client-server-client.

rebdomine

6040 Posts

January 29 2015 08:05 GMT

#525

On January 29 2015 17:02 sandyph wrote:

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familiar with howl is pretty good

kind of like drow visage huh

Kishin2

United States7534 Posts

January 29 2015 08:05 GMT

#526

Wow, Secret 2k gold ahead in 5 minutes.

lolfail9001

Russian Federation40190 Posts

January 29 2015 08:06 GMT

#527

On January 29 2015 17:05 rebdomine wrote:

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kind of like drow visage huh

Slightly worse damage-wise, but on other hand, you have an advantage of not picking drow.

haduken

Australia8267 Posts

January 29 2015 08:06 GMT

#528

so basically all the non Chinese team won in the first round LOL

FHDH

United States7023 Posts

January 29 2015 08:07 GMT

#529

Pretty sweet synergy for the Dusa.

Fire Turtles

527 Posts

January 29 2015 08:07 GMT

#530

What on earth is with Na'Vi

KristofferAG

Norway25712 Posts

January 29 2015 08:08 GMT

#531

I like Navi's lineup, but that's 90% because I'm a fanboy.

Morbidius

Brazil3449 Posts

January 29 2015 08:09 GMT

#532

Chinese dota isn't what it used to be.

Morbidius

Brazil3449 Posts

January 29 2015 08:12 GMT

#533

How the hell does arteezy have 10 last hits per minute?

Velr

Switzerland10716 Posts

January 29 2015 08:12 GMT

#534

No matter how this tourney goes from here.

The guys that said "Chinese so ahead atm" should go and rethink their lives

TRAP[yoo]

Hungary6026 Posts

January 29 2015 08:13 GMT

#535

On January 29 2015 17:12 Velr wrote:
No matter how this tourney goes from here.

The guys that said "Chinese so ahead atm" should go and rethink their lives

you do remember the first day of ti4 right? good

icystorage

Jollibee19349 Posts

January 29 2015 08:13 GMT

#536

GOLDEN KITKAT D:

drew-chan

Malaysia1517 Posts

January 29 2015 08:13 GMT

#537

On January 29 2015 17:09 Morbidius wrote:
Chinese dota isn't what it used to be.

Most of them have only played a single game out of many more to come. I'd save judgment until the end of day 2 at least. I would agree that sloppy play seems to be affecting Chinese teams a whole lot though.