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On July 21 2014 10:30 zeru wrote:
this must be the first time i see people complain about a team because they have a super aggressive playstyle.
The irony is Na'Vi's old style is very similar to how VG played.
Remember there old motto? Why play for the late game when you can end the game in 20 minutes. That's... literally what VG does. People see it coming and yet don't bother to try to stop it lol.
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On July 21 2014 10:32 krutopatkin wrote:
I wonder if the Chinese were so salty last year as well.
They were. But it was more directed towards their own team. Chinese fans are no joke when it comes to flaming their own teams.
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On July 21 2014 10:32 krutopatkin wrote:
I wonder if the Chinese were so salty last year as well.
There was a solid amount of salt from Chinese fans. It happens every year. And after this post, someone will try to say Chinese fans were less salty and the non-china fans are way more salty. And the circle of life continues.
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On July 21 2014 10:31 icystorage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:30 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:27 Count9 wrote:
TI 1 4 west 4 east
TI 2 1 west 7 east
TI 3 4 west 4 east
TI 4 3 west 5 east
Complain about the Chinese invasion when it actually happens ty. I'm honestly much more worried about SEA. They only have the 4 guys from Titan holding them up  i see you have yet to feel the PINOY PRIDE MINESKI AND EXECRATION
To be honest i have never Pinoy Dota play well in high level competition. Can't remember a time they did. Or maybe i just haven't them do so.
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the chinese were hyper critical of their team's failures rather than blaming it on western doto
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 21 2014 10:31 icystorage wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:30 stuchiu wrote:On July 21 2014 10:27 Count9 wrote:
TI 1 4 west 4 east
TI 2 1 west 7 east
TI 3 4 west 4 east
TI 4 3 west 5 east
Complain about the Chinese invasion when it actually happens ty. I'm honestly much more worried about SEA. They only have the 4 guys from Titan holding them up i see you have yet to feel the PINOY PRIDE MINESKI AND EXECRATION
noooo, someone named themselves execration? HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
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opterown
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On July 21 2014 10:32 krutopatkin wrote:
I wonder if the Chinese were so salty last year as well.
can confirm i was pretty salty about fountain hooks though i'm not chinese
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I love aggro play styles, my only problem I guess is that when it's a pushing strat like what VG goes, it feels like the game is always decided at the 10 minute mark. They either push through, snowball and win... Or get crushed in late game due to no drafting for that, and they lose 20 minutes later.
I dislike games that are snowball-ey. Still rooting for VG though, big fan of Rotk, glad he's showing his personality and whatnot, really cool guy.
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On July 21 2014 10:33 Seraphic wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:30 zeru wrote:
this must be the first time i see people complain about a team because they have a super aggressive playstyle. The irony is Na'Vi's old style is very similar to how VG played. Remember there old motto? Why play for the late game when you can end the game in 20 minutes. That's... literally what VG does. People see it coming and yet don't bother to try to stop it lol.
Yup pretty much. Also "we kill you under your tower and then kill your tower".
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On July 21 2014 10:21 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:18 ForTehDarkseid wrote:On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch. LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china." lol, he is right though. You can't be right with personal opinions. And anyone who uses "casuals" in their argument is just a hipster tryhard.
It's not personal opinion, it's marketing effect. And I don't think that "casual" was used in negative conotation here.
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I came to this thread to see average players flame the best players in the world but instead i see them flaming each other 
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On July 21 2014 10:31 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:28 Sbrubbles wrote:On July 21 2014 10:20 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On July 21 2014 10:18 Plansix wrote:On July 21 2014 10:16 kirsed wrote:On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch. LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china." Wow you're actually an idiot. Na'Vi has the biggest fan base of all western teams and probably the biggest fan base of any team. People who watch dota for TI usually only root for Na'Vi it's just natural. I like Na'Vi took pretty much everyone does that's my point if you're too retarded to see my point then I don't know what to say. So you'll stop talking? Mission accomplished. can you shut up actually im pretty sure you're being the instigator here Plansix the Instigator  . Don't worry about it Plan, some people don't like that there is no foreign team in the finals and some people don't like that some people don't like that there is no foreign team in the finals. You can't stop the useless flamewar. By the way, was my usage of "foreign" correct? I don't really know any more. I just like how the argument has progresses from "Damn it, why did EU or NA have a team in the finals." which is followed by: "You racist" And then moved to: "Casuals have no one to cheer for" And has now moved to: "Why do people hate china?" or "The format sucks"
You forgot the "You're just a salty EG fan"
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On July 21 2014 10:30 FakeDeath wrote:
So much salt and people whining about smoke seriously?
Icefrog wanted to make the game more active early and not make boringfest games that Dota in the past was known for.
That was the purpose of smoke which is ganking and making stuffs happening.
I rather see active supports roaming trying to get kills than passive supports.
EG clearly was playing for the late game and they got punished hard for it.
RTZ going midas when VG was about to push tier 3.
It was good that VG punished that.
So you really have no issue with the strongest teams being the ones who draft for strong early game, smoke for kills, take objectives from that advantage, and then just kinda snowball into 30 minute game wins or less? I like kills and ganks too, I don't like 5 man deathball tank/push playstyle. You dont have to nerf smokes strengths, but you can make it cost more or be able to buy them less frequently which I think is important because they clearly promote a playstyle that is strongest and I don't really wanna see nothing but 25 minute dota games for a year straight.
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opterown
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On July 21 2014 10:33 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:32 krutopatkin wrote:
I wonder if the Chinese were so salty last year as well. There was a solid amount of salt from Chinese fans. It happens every year. And after this post, someone will try to say Chinese fans were less salty and the non-china fans are way more salty. And the circle of life continues.
well western fans far outnumber eastern fans on western forums so it should be obvious who's perceived as saltier
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On July 21 2014 10:32 Count9 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 21 2014 10:30 FakeDeath wrote:
So much salt and people whining about smoke seriously?
Icefrog wanted to make the game more active early and not make boringfest games that Dota in the past was known for.
That was the purpose of smoke which is ganking and making stuffs happening.
I rather see active supports roaming trying to get kills than passive supports.
EG clearly was playing for the late game and they got punished hard for it.
RTZ going midas when VG was about to push tier 3.
It was good that VG punished that. C9 actually had really good drafts and play against VG's style, it's definitely not all about smoke. But they're C9 and newton's 3rd law of C9 clearly says for every good decision and play C9 make an equally terrible decision and play must occur at a later time.
Hahah nice one.
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On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
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The IRONY Kip, the irony 
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On July 21 2014 10:33 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure what people want to watch
They hate Rat style if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Push if its by a Chinese team not DK
They hate Aggressive ganking if its a Chinese team not DK
They hate teamfight unless its by a Chinese team not DK
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Vocal minorities Kipsate. Most people like the aggro style I think.
Also it's getting a good mix, people start to hate things after they see nothing but the same thing over and over.
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On July 21 2014 10:34 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2014 10:31 Plansix wrote:On July 21 2014 10:28 Sbrubbles wrote:On July 21 2014 10:20 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On July 21 2014 10:18 Plansix wrote:On July 21 2014 10:16 kirsed wrote:On July 21 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote:On July 21 2014 10:11 kirsed wrote:
The reason that there is a lack of hype for grand finals from the west is literally that Na'vi isn't there and casuals don't have anyone to watch. LoL, dota hipster sighted. "Na'Vi is to main stream for me. Casuals cheer for them and EG. True dota fans love china." Wow you're actually an idiot. Na'Vi has the biggest fan base of all western teams and probably the biggest fan base of any team. People who watch dota for TI usually only root for Na'Vi it's just natural. I like Na'Vi took pretty much everyone does that's my point if you're too retarded to see my point then I don't know what to say. So you'll stop talking? Mission accomplished. can you shut up actually im pretty sure you're being the instigator here Plansix the Instigator . Don't worry about it Plan, some people don't like that there is no foreign team in the finals and some people don't like that some people don't like that there is no foreign team in the finals. You can't stop the useless flamewar. By the way, was my usage of "foreign" correct? I don't really know any more. I just like how the argument has progresses from "Damn it, why did EU or NA have a team in the finals." which is followed by: "You racist" And then moved to: "Casuals have no one to cheer for" And has now moved to: "Why do people hate china?" or "The format sucks" You forgot the "You're just a salty EG fan"
Its was hard to fit it into the "Salty argument timeline". It sort of fits in anywhere.
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