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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 14 2014 21:30 GMT
#2321
On July 15 2014 06:25 pyro19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

It's really not.
That's how every major Sports Franchise fans are.They support their team rather than the Individuals that play in them.
If you switch teams after your favourite player leaves then it's pretty clear you weren't a fan of the organization to begin with and just liked watching a specific player.

Varies from game to game though. I can understand major sports franchises where there are dozens of players, but these are 5-player teams. It's up to each person.

Like in SC2, where there are teams but not necessarily fans of teams. People might have cheered for a team because they had two of their favorite players along with 5 players they didn't care about. When those players left for another team, they might very well change their opinion and start cheering for their new teams.

This isn't black and white.


GAME IS UP IN CLIENT
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:30:50
July 14 2014 21:30 GMT
#2322
Na'Vi being where they are now is somewhat fine, they haven't looked good in a long time. NewBee was just better. I can understand their supporters however, it's never fun to see your team fall apart.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
July 14 2014 21:30 GMT
#2323
On July 15 2014 06:29 yyfpulls wrote:
Well I guess C9 get a free win. That's good.

just like in the previous phase :p
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:31:12
July 14 2014 21:30 GMT
#2324
European teams really need to get their shit together after this TI
The Real Power~
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
July 14 2014 21:31 GMT
#2325
On July 15 2014 06:29 yyfpulls wrote:
Well I guess C9 get a free win. That's good.

I mean I don't which team has a better record against one another but if we want to talk about bad drafting and inconsistency, C9 is probably a bigger culprit in both those categories than Na'Vi is.
Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
July 14 2014 21:31 GMT
#2326
On July 15 2014 06:29 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:28 Faruko wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

I get that you dont like sports or teams for all that matters

fine, but thats you

ok, then don't tell me how to be a fan of a dota team with your standards from other sports


the players make the team, the main reason i like C9 is because i like singsing (because he's the last relevant dutch player, for a large part) but if he goes to some other team ill cheer for them. same goes for (4) and Dendi with navi, Burning on DK...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 14 2014 21:31 GMT
#2327
On July 15 2014 06:28 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

I get that you dont like sports or teams for all that matters

fine, but thats you

To clarify, borderline everybody BUT you feels this way.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#2328
Dadskyl so high resolution.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
July 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#2329
On July 15 2014 06:29 yyfpulls wrote:
Well I guess C9 get a free win. That's good.

Isn't that we all sadly said in stage 2. Yeah Na'Vi isn't exactly riding a lot of momentum but C9 is just as prone to bone headed drafts and plays as Na'Vi.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
July 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#2330
On July 15 2014 06:31 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:29 yyfpulls wrote:
Well I guess C9 get a free win. That's good.

I mean I don't which team has a better record against one another but if we want to talk about bad drafting and inconsistency, C9 is probably a bigger culprit in both those categories than Na'Vi is.

Tinker support
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
July 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#2331
On July 15 2014 06:25 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:19 h0munkulus wrote:
What is your take about these two days of bubble race playoffs?

Personally I don't really think they do much for the tournament. The first match has some big stakes, but the other two are just more seeding matches, after we already had 4 days of round robin for seeding. Just in general losing 8 teams behind essentially "closed doors" and extending hotel dota even further with these bubble races doesn't improve the tournament at all in my opinion.

i enjoyed the 16 team round robin stage and that would have been impossible at the main event. i'm also not salty that teams are msising from main event since i'm not actualyl going to keyarena (salty about that), so i don't mind the format. i feel kind of bad for liquid that they got put into their deciding bo3 vs lgd based on head to head calculations, but their games vs lgd kinda cemented the fact that they still lacked the polish to be a top contender, so whatever


I enjoyed the group stage aswell but of course there is room for improvement. I dislike the bubble bracket. The first match is way too important especially when the teams playing it do so because of head to head results.
I'm not sure how I feel about seeing some teams play 500 more matches than others. I don't see it as a punishment it just doesn't feel right to me.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#2332
This announcer hype as fuck
secret - never again
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
July 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#2333
C9 versus Na'vi is going to be a complete clusterfuck; no lead will ever be safe. That show will be 3 days away so now lets focus on IG vs NB. aaaaaaaaaaaaaand Razer First ban.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:33:17
July 14 2014 21:32 GMT
#2334
On July 15 2014 06:25 pyro19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

It's really not.
That's how every major Sports Franchise fans are.They support their team rather than the Individuals that play in them.
If you switch teams after your favourite player leaves then it's pretty clear you weren't a fan of the organization to begin with and just liked watching a specific player.

Well in most major Sports Franchise fans identify to the organisation for some reason. Either they had players they were fan of when they were young or had parents who were fans or share proximity with said organization/team.

In Dota that translates as being fan of Mouz because you are German or Liquid because you like the site or liking some players on a team.

I like DK because of the players, I have no feelings about DK as an organization, I don't even know who their sponsors are and I would guess it's the same for most people.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
July 14 2014 21:33 GMT
#2335
Sounds different to last year's one.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
July 14 2014 21:33 GMT
#2336
On July 15 2014 06:31 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:29 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:28 Faruko wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

I get that you dont like sports or teams for all that matters

fine, but thats you

ok, then don't tell me how to be a fan of a dota team with your standards from other sports


the players make the team, the main reason i like C9 is because i like singsing (because he's the last relevant dutch player, for a large part) but if he goes to some other team ill cheer for them. same goes for (4) and Dendi with navi, Burning on DK...


this I agree with, personality is the key and some have it, some don't
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 14 2014 21:33 GMT
#2337
all i can think about with these high res cameras n shit is how impure their skin is and how much shit they've got on their face to look good.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2014 21:34 GMT
#2338
On July 15 2014 06:32 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:25 pyro19 wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

It's really not.
That's how every major Sports Franchise fans are.They support their team rather than the Individuals that play in them.
If you switch teams after your favourite player leaves then it's pretty clear you weren't a fan of the organization to begin with and just liked watching a specific player.

Well in most major Sports Franchise fans identify to the organisation for some reason. Either they had players they were fan of when they were young or had parents who were fans or share proximity with said organization/team.

In Dota that translates as being fan of Mouz because you are German or Liquid because you like the site or liking some players on a team.

I like DK because of the players, I have no feelings about DK as an organization, I don't even know who their sponsors are and I would guess it's the same for most people.


It's really just a time issue. Most sports franchises have been around for decades so eventually you become attached to the team itself and not just the players. eSports just hasn't been around long enough for that to happen so it's predominately about the players.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 14 2014 21:35 GMT
#2339
God dammit I didn't even notice I fell asleep can you guys vote in polls :<

Poll: Recommend Round 2 Game 1?

Yes (4)
 
31%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

No (8)
 
62%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Round 2 Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No


Poll: Recommend Round 2 Game 2?

Yes (7)
 
54%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

No (6)
 
46%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Round 2 Game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No


Poll: Recommend Round 2 Game 3?

Yes (2)
 
20%

If you have time (1)
 
10%

No (7)
 
70%

10 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Round 2 Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): If you have time
(Vote): No

Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
July 14 2014 21:35 GMT
#2340
I'm liking the drafts out of both teams so far.
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