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Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
July 14 2014 21:39 GMT
#2361
We're going late game! Still really cool draft from both teams.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
July 14 2014 21:39 GMT
#2362
On July 15 2014 06:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Oh boy, spectre vs tinker.

am i wrong in thinking if spectre doesn't get owned in lane, IG just loses?
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2363
On July 15 2014 06:39 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Oh boy, spectre vs tinker.

am i wrong in thinking if spectre doesn't get owned in lane, IG just loses?

That's what LD for.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2364
On July 15 2014 06:38 Diavlo wrote:
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On July 15 2014 06:34 Numy wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:32 Diavlo wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:25 pyro19 wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

It's really not.
That's how every major Sports Franchise fans are.They support their team rather than the Individuals that play in them.
If you switch teams after your favourite player leaves then it's pretty clear you weren't a fan of the organization to begin with and just liked watching a specific player.

Well in most major Sports Franchise fans identify to the organisation for some reason. Either they had players they were fan of when they were young or had parents who were fans or share proximity with said organization/team.

In Dota that translates as being fan of Mouz because you are German or Liquid because you like the site or liking some players on a team.

I like DK because of the players, I have no feelings about DK as an organization, I don't even know who their sponsors are and I would guess it's the same for most people.


It's really just a time issue. Most sports franchises have been around for decades so eventually you become attached to the team itself and not just the players. eSports just hasn't been around long enough for that to happen so it's predominately about the players.


I agree, we are actually seeing the start of real franchise with EG/Na'Vi and and other long running organizations that expand in different games. I don't know anything about LOL or Street fighter but if I check a stream with an EG/Liquid player I will pretty much automatically root for that guy.


SK and Fnatic are also good examples although SK has kind of fallen pretty hard.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2365
On July 15 2014 06:38 Gotuso wrote:
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That's how every major Sports Franchise fans are.They support their team rather than the Individuals that play in them.



Thats not really true. In Football, people support players just as much as teams. I was a fan of Tottenham Hotspur for a while because Rafeal van der Vaart played for them. Once he left, I lost interest. A lot of people support Messi, Ronaldo or Ibrahimoviz without necessarily being fan of the team

ask those people and they will tell you they have a Team they will always support

Obviously if theres a player i like i would cheer for that team (Arsenal now that Alexis Sanchez players for them), but Deportes Arica will always be my first and true love <3
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2366
YYF LD, yay
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2367
On July 15 2014 06:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
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On July 15 2014 06:39 Ramiz1989 wrote:
SPECTRE! FUCK YES!

Never mind, LD will roll Newbee. At the very least, Newbee will bothered with him.

Hard to root for someone now, Spectre and LD are my 2 favorite Agi heroes.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2368
On July 15 2014 06:39 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:39 lolfail9001 wrote:
Oh boy, spectre vs tinker.

am i wrong in thinking if spectre doesn't get owned in lane, IG just loses?


Yes, spectre counters tinker if given enough space.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2369
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2370
iG taking strats from ye olde mTw.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2371
Very interesting draft from iG. Very excited to see where this is going
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:41:11
July 14 2014 21:40 GMT
#2372
dont see iG winning this unless 430 somehow snowballs. some weird draft.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
ApproximateKnowledge
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2373
On July 15 2014 06:36 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:28 Faruko wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell

I get that you dont like sports or teams for all that matters

fine, but thats you

To clarify, borderline everybody BUT you feels this way.

Nah, eSports are different from other sports. Loyalty to organisations that mostly last only a couple years is totally different to ones that have been round for over a century. If you want to do that it's fine, but if you don't I don't see the problem.

Where I'd make fun of people is if they're a "fan" when a team is winning and not when they're losing despite no changes in personnel.


Loyalty to organizations...

They is nothing 'noble' about being a fan. Emotional investment in and vicarious living through teams/players should be for fun and entertainment only. Anything more is unhealthy and delusional.
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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2374
On July 15 2014 06:38 Gotuso wrote:
Show nested quote +
That's how every major Sports Franchise fans are.They support their team rather than the Individuals that play in them.



Thats not really true. In Football, people support players just as much as teams. I was a fan of Tottenham Hotspur for a while because Rafeal van der Vaart played for them. Once he left, I lost interest. A lot of people support Messi, Ronaldo or Ibrahimoviz without necessarily being fan of the team


I did explain that point in my post no? If you lose interest in a team once your supported player leaves you weren't really a fan of the team to begin with and just liked to watch the player.

I've never supported Chelsea in my life but I always liked watching Didier Drogba play and as soon as he left I completely stopped following them unless they played against United.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2375
I always liked how franchise fans stand tall when one of the fans starts cheering for their team because of a certain player, looking down on them. It's like sports man, who the hell cares.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2376
Opposition team is going for hard push and you pick fucking Lich?

Newbee please.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2377
I like drafts from both sides.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2378
Uh oh, overarching greed alert. I dislike Nooby's draft a lot.
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buhhy
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1113 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2379
LD! Rooting for iG!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 14 2014 21:41 GMT
#2380
430 tinker daumn
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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