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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 14 2014 21:17 GMT
#2281
On July 15 2014 06:12 Snorkle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:09 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:08 Orome wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:05 FreakyDroid wrote:
Waiting for the xvost haters to jump in because obviously he throws and he is the sole reason why navi loses.


Clearly. Plus Liquid needs to kick TC and wayto, mason and ppd are terrible so EG will never win anything, arteezy's the most overrated player in the world. Oh and Clown9 should just disband, they're the worst team of all time.

By now I find it entertaining. It's so predictable.

>ppd
>terrible
Has anyone ever said that?

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2014 09:21 Jaaaaasper wrote:
PPD is synderen 2.0. Hes a great drafter and captain, but his teams don't do well against the very best becuase hes weak as a individual player. Plus mason doesn't actually play hard carry, so if rtz gets even slowed down they're fucked. Like mason was going aghs on gyro before the game was decided. You can put him on a hard carry, but hes going to play utility because thats just how they've been playing for months now.

that dudes pretty awful, i wouldnt take anything he says seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 14 2014 21:17 GMT
#2282
On July 15 2014 06:08 Koerage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:02 Faruko wrote:
On July 15 2014 05:59 waever wrote:
i take back the part where i say that Na'Vi might win 1 bo3 series in loosers bracket, they will probably loose to meepo or smtn like that. Fucking pathetic. No clue about meta/drafts, no clue about laning, no clue about rotations.

i predict disband

lol what ? Navi disband ? they just got 500k when everyone (even TL) spelled doom all over them... (No10 lol)

if thats the case, poor Liquid, Titan, Fnatic, Mouz, Empire. Alliance, etc... guess we will end up with only 5 teams in Dota 2

You missed last TI where we had exactly 3 teams that didn't disband post TI and 13 that did maybe?


lets see
Alliance Fnatic Navi all didnt disband, believe iG stayed together for a bit as did VG, Orange-1 turned into Titan. DK reformed, not sure if that counts. Tongfu eventually became NewBee (pretty much at least) but that took a while.
MUFC did disband, TL tried for a bit but fell. LGD is pretty much the same as LGD.cn i think.
Zenith died, that iteration of mouz died, dignitas died, Rs.cn died and i dont even recall the VP squad from last year but it prolly was very different.
so not 13 disbands but a solid... 6-10 depending on how u count

iG lost chuan/zhou, and I believe faith had at one point agreed to leave as well. thats a full disband.
Vg weren't even at TI LOL
Orange lost their star, and sponsorship. They are the closest to a 4th "non-disband".
Tongfu full disbanded and then some. It took ages for this group to re-form.
LGD full disbanded, isn't close to old LGD.
DK is like 2/5 the same and MMY originally got the boot as well.
Everybody disbanded.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 14 2014 21:18 GMT
#2283
On July 15 2014 06:16 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:12 KristofferAG wrote:
Anyone know whether or not we're actually going to wait and follow the schedule?

Cus I'mma play a game if so.

it'll start soon DW the TL calendar is just my estimation

so close :/
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:20:37
July 14 2014 21:18 GMT
#2284
puppey is a good captain even with these losses. communication and practice was mostly the problem here. the only people that need to go is whoever is keeping them from practicing or causing baby drama so they can't communicate.

I think if you take away puppey, Navi would be another VP. A lot of good players that don't do anything.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:20:35
July 14 2014 21:18 GMT
#2285
On July 15 2014 06:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:08 Koerage wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:02 Faruko wrote:
On July 15 2014 05:59 waever wrote:
i take back the part where i say that Na'Vi might win 1 bo3 series in loosers bracket, they will probably loose to meepo or smtn like that. Fucking pathetic. No clue about meta/drafts, no clue about laning, no clue about rotations.

i predict disband

lol what ? Navi disband ? they just got 500k when everyone (even TL) spelled doom all over them... (No10 lol)

if thats the case, poor Liquid, Titan, Fnatic, Mouz, Empire. Alliance, etc... guess we will end up with only 5 teams in Dota 2

You missed last TI where we had exactly 3 teams that didn't disband post TI and 13 that did maybe?


lets see
Alliance Fnatic Navi all didnt disband, believe iG stayed together for a bit as did VG, Orange-1 turned into Titan. DK reformed, not sure if that counts. Tongfu eventually became NewBee (pretty much at least) but that took a while.
MUFC did disband, TL tried for a bit but fell. LGD is pretty much the same as LGD.cn i think.
Zenith died, that iteration of mouz died, dignitas died, Rs.cn died and i dont even recall the VP squad from last year but it prolly was very different.
so not 13 disbands but a solid... 6-10 depending on how u count

iG lost chuan/zhou, and I believe faith had at one point agreed to leave as well. thats a full disband.
Vg weren't even at TI LOL
Orange lost their star, and sponsorship. They are the closest to a 4th "non-disband".
Tongfu full disbanded and then some. It took ages for this group to re-form.
LGD full disbanded, isn't close to old LGD.
DK is like 2/5 the same and MMY originally got the boot as well.
Everybody disbanded.


Disband =/= change in roster

if the organization its still going then the team still exists, if thats the case, there are 18 new teams eveyr year in every season of football in every country in the world.

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
h0munkulus
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria1481 Posts
July 14 2014 21:19 GMT
#2286
What is your take about these two days of bubble race playoffs?

Personally I don't really think they do much for the tournament. The first match has some big stakes, but the other two are just more seeding matches, after we already had 4 days of round robin for seeding. Just in general losing 8 teams behind essentially "closed doors" and extending hotel dota even further with these bubble races doesn't improve the tournament at all in my opinion.

I would really hope they go back to a format that sees all teams playing in front of the main crowd and focus on that part of the competition, rather then giving us more hotel dota....
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 14 2014 21:19 GMT
#2287
On July 15 2014 06:18 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:16 opterown wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:12 KristofferAG wrote:
Anyone know whether or not we're actually going to wait and follow the schedule?

Cus I'mma play a game if so.

it'll start soon DW the TL calendar is just my estimation

so close :/

sorry for thinking that navi will put up more of a fight
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 14 2014 21:20 GMT
#2288
super and rotk are on vg so you could argue that current vg is just as similar to ti3 dk as current dk (burning and mmy)
posting on liquid sites in current year
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:20:08
July 14 2014 21:20 GMT
#2289
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:08 Koerage wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:02 Faruko wrote:
On July 15 2014 05:59 waever wrote:
i take back the part where i say that Na'Vi might win 1 bo3 series in loosers bracket, they will probably loose to meepo or smtn like that. Fucking pathetic. No clue about meta/drafts, no clue about laning, no clue about rotations.

i predict disband

lol what ? Navi disband ? they just got 500k when everyone (even TL) spelled doom all over them... (No10 lol)

if thats the case, poor Liquid, Titan, Fnatic, Mouz, Empire. Alliance, etc... guess we will end up with only 5 teams in Dota 2

You missed last TI where we had exactly 3 teams that didn't disband post TI and 13 that did maybe?


lets see
Alliance Fnatic Navi all didnt disband, believe iG stayed together for a bit as did VG, Orange-1 turned into Titan. DK reformed, not sure if that counts. Tongfu eventually became NewBee (pretty much at least) but that took a while.
MUFC did disband, TL tried for a bit but fell. LGD is pretty much the same as LGD.cn i think.
Zenith died, that iteration of mouz died, dignitas died, Rs.cn died and i dont even recall the VP squad from last year but it prolly was very different.
so not 13 disbands but a solid... 6-10 depending on how u count

iG lost chuan/zhou, and I believe faith had at one point agreed to leave as well. thats a full disband.
Vg weren't even at TI LOL
Orange lost their star, and sponsorship. They are the closest to a 4th "non-disband".
Tongfu full disbanded and then some. It took ages for this group to re-form.
LGD full disbanded, isn't close to old LGD.
DK is like 2/5 the same and MMY originally got the boot as well.
Everybody disbanded.


Disband =/= change in roster

if the organization its still going then the team still exists, if thats the case, there are 18 new teams eveyr year in every season of football in every country in the world.


If it roster is significantly different then functionally calling it disband is fine.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 14 2014 21:20 GMT
#2290
Can somebody explain to me this whole betting on the analyst desk?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 14 2014 21:20 GMT
#2291
On July 15 2014 06:16 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:12 KristofferAG wrote:
Anyone know whether or not we're actually going to wait and follow the schedule?

Cus I'mma play a game if so.

it'll start soon DW the TL calendar is just my estimation

oh ok

8 minutes woop :D
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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 21:22:26
July 14 2014 21:20 GMT
#2292
On July 15 2014 06:18 lolnoty wrote:
puppey is a good captain even with these losses. communication and practice was mostly the problem here. the only people that need to go is whoever is keeping them from practicing or causing baby drama so they can't communicate.



Hvost clearly one of the people not listening. If you read some of the post game interviews of last TI, you'd know that Hvost was the one who demanded to go bottom against the tri-lane despite Ppy wanting Hvost to go top to avoid it (and in reality, I think they probably win if Hvost gets early game farm) in the deciding game against Alliance.


Not listening to the team captain/drafter in the final deciding game of a championship game is a pretty big deal. I'd wager that Hvost/Funnik definitely playing without listening to Ppy half the time, though Ppy's inability to play well outside of Enchant/Enigma/Chen is definitely not cool either. Kky stealing like 30% of Hvost's farm on the map is hilarious too.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 14 2014 21:22 GMT
#2293
On July 15 2014 06:18 Faruko wrote:

If you are fan of DK, you root for them, not for the players !, even if by some reason they are 5 new players that sucks

that's dumb as hell
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
July 14 2014 21:22 GMT
#2294
On July 15 2014 06:20 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:18 lolnoty wrote:
puppey is a good captain even with these losses. communication and practice was mostly the problem here. the only people that need to go is whoever is keeping them from practicing or causing baby drama so they can't communicate.



Hvost clearly one of the people not listening. If you read some of the post game interviews of last TI, you'd know that Hvost was the one who demanded to go bottom against the tri-lane despite Ppy wanting Hvost to go top to avoid it (and in reality, I think they probably win if Hvost gets early game farm) in the deciding game against Alliance.

didn't xboct get a triple kill?
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 14 2014 21:22 GMT
#2295
On July 15 2014 06:19 h0munkulus wrote:
What is your take about these two days of bubble race playoffs?

Personally I don't really think they do much for the tournament. The first match has some big stakes, but the other two are just more seeding matches, after we already had 4 days of round robin for seeding. Just in general losing 8 teams behind essentially "closed doors" and extending hotel dota even further with these bubble races doesn't improve the tournament at all in my opinion.

I would really hope they go back to a format that sees all teams playing in front of the main crowd and focus on that part of the competition, rather then giving us more hotel dota....


same but i guess it is related to the location change that they also changed the format? Or maybe they are just trying out different formats?
I also preferred last years format
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
July 14 2014 21:22 GMT
#2296
On July 15 2014 06:19 h0munkulus wrote:
What is your take about these two days of bubble race playoffs?

Personally I don't really think they do much for the tournament. The first match has some big stakes, but the other two are just more seeding matches, after we already had 4 days of round robin for seeding. Just in general losing 8 teams behind essentially "closed doors" and extending hotel dota even further with these bubble races doesn't improve the tournament at all in my opinion.

I would really hope they go back to a format that sees all teams playing in front of the main crowd and focus on that part of the competition, rather then giving us more hotel dota....


Hotel dota? What does that mean?

You have to remember how costly it is to book big venues like Key Arena. It's not like they can book them for 2 weeks and just play it out. Also having these venues filled for so long could be problematic.

This is fine. We get the absolute best dota at the main event.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 14 2014 21:23 GMT
#2297
On July 15 2014 06:22 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:20 superstartran wrote:
On July 15 2014 06:18 lolnoty wrote:
puppey is a good captain even with these losses. communication and practice was mostly the problem here. the only people that need to go is whoever is keeping them from practicing or causing baby drama so they can't communicate.



Hvost clearly one of the people not listening. If you read some of the post game interviews of last TI, you'd know that Hvost was the one who demanded to go bottom against the tri-lane despite Ppy wanting Hvost to go top to avoid it (and in reality, I think they probably win if Hvost gets early game farm) in the deciding game against Alliance.

didn't xboct get a triple kill?



Yeah but that was more of an Alliance mistake then anything. And in all reality, the goal was accomplished, Hvost got zero farm and was forced into a Blademail build which literally did nothing for them.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
July 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#2298
On July 15 2014 06:20 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:18 lolnoty wrote:
puppey is a good captain even with these losses. communication and practice was mostly the problem here. the only people that need to go is whoever is keeping them from practicing or causing baby drama so they can't communicate.



Hvost clearly one of the people not listening. If you read some of the post game interviews of last TI, you'd know that Hvost was the one who demanded to go bottom against the tri-lane despite Ppy wanting Hvost to go top to avoid it (and in reality, I think they probably win if Hvost gets early game farm) in the deciding game against Alliance.


Not listening to the team captain/drafter in the final deciding game of a championship game is a pretty big deal. I'd wager that Hvost/Funnik definitely playing without listening to Ppy half the time, though Ppy's inability to play well outside of Enchant/Enigma/Chen is definitely not cool either. Kky stealing like 30% of Hvost's farm on the map is hilarious too.


That game was won for them anyway though... It was really S4 cancelling one tp, and Dendi cancelling his own that go them ratted out. They were well in the lead until that happened.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
July 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#2299
On July 15 2014 06:20 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2014 06:18 lolnoty wrote:
puppey is a good captain even with these losses. communication and practice was mostly the problem here. the only people that need to go is whoever is keeping them from practicing or causing baby drama so they can't communicate.



Hvost clearly one of the people not listening. If you read some of the post game interviews of last TI, you'd know that Hvost was the one who demanded to go bottom against the tri-lane despite Ppy wanting Hvost to go top to avoid it (and in reality, I think they probably win if Hvost gets early game farm) in the deciding game against Alliance.


Not listening to the team captain/drafter in the final deciding game of a championship game is a pretty big deal. I'd wager that Hvost/Funnik definitely playing without listening to Ppy half the time, though Ppy's inability to play well outside of Enchant/Enigma/Chen is definitely not cool either. Kky stealing like 30% of Hvost's farm on the map is hilarious too.


so it takes the ma year to come back to TI to start the war who is to be kicked from the team, hell yeah, not even hvost is so stupid
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
July 14 2014 21:24 GMT
#2300
You all way too angry.
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