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Please keep in mind that match fixing accusations still aren't OK.
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
July 13 2014 06:43 GMT
#41
Come on c9, have a good day tomorrow. Need to find some consistency. Hope somebody forgets to ban visage!
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 13 2014 07:57 GMT
#42
On July 13 2014 13:39 Kuroeeah wrote:
is liquid really an underdog? from what i've seen from LGD, Liquid doesn't really seem to have anything to worry about.


Liquid seems like exactly the kind of opponent you want to face with hours to prepare and a Bo3 setting to work through multiple games.

They have very obvious picks that they rely on. They got utterly crushed by any early aggression/push strats. Most (read: all) of their big wins against top teams relied on the other team playing passive, defensive farming styles that couldn't answer 5-man fights or pushes. They lost almost every game where the opposing team was willing to go 5-on-5 in the mid-game.

If you're a Liquid fan, you basically have to hope that LGD doesn't do their homework, or that Liquid practiced enough with alternative strats and are at least aware of their weaknesses during group stages.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 08:09:20
July 13 2014 08:02 GMT
#43
So... I woke up today, I saw that Lumi was co-casting the Grand Final... Like what the hell are you thinking Valve. It's obvious youhave a Caster like LD/Tobi + an expert. It's a disgrace to even put Lumi in that "expert" category. That made me sorta cranky. Tobi + Synd or LD + Synd has been doing so well, why is Lumi even a contender. It's just such a wack move.

Then I saw that Gamefy has recorded and leaked videos of DK's drafting and pregame discussions and that just made me downright angry. I fucking hope that the other pro teams are disciplined enough to not look for this video. If caught they should be punished aswell. Gamefy should be lifetime banned. I dont care about their excuses.
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 09:12:49
July 13 2014 08:57 GMT
#44
On July 13 2014 17:02 Oddball28 wrote:
So... I woke up today, I saw that Lumi was co-casting the Grand Final... Like what the hell are you thinking Valve. It's obvious youhave a Caster like LD/Tobi + an expert. It's a disgrace to even put Lumi in that "expert" category. That made me sorta cranky. Tobi + Synd or LD + Synd has been doing so well, why is Lumi even a contender. It's just such a wack move.

Then I saw that Gamefy has recorded and leaked videos of DK's drafting and pregame discussions and that just made me downright angry. I fucking hope that the other pro teams are disciplined enough to not look for this video. If caught they should be punished aswell. Gamefy should be lifetime banned. I dont care about their excuses.

Synd's casting is too wonky for the grand finals, and while Lumi is known to be not careful and thoughtful in casting some games, he did well casting previous TI finals, and he complements Tobi well. Ofc, I'd prefer to see Godz, Fear or Kuro instead of either of them, but it can't be helped.

How many drafts were recorded in that video? if more than three, than it could be a little of worrisome, but it still depends what kind of opponents DK were facing that time. I think everybody expect them hiding as much strats as possible, so it may be a planful distraction anyway.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
July 13 2014 09:06 GMT
#45
On July 13 2014 17:57 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 17:02 Oddball28 wrote:
So... I woke up today, I saw that Lumi was co-casting the Grand Final... Like what the hell are you thinking Valve. It's obvious youhave a Caster like LD/Tobi + an expert. It's a disgrace to even put Lumi in that "expert" category. That made me sorta cranky. Tobi + Synd or LD + Synd has been doing so well, why is Lumi even a contender. It's just such a wack move.

Then I saw that Gamefy has recorded and leaked videos of DK's drafting and pregame discussions and that just made me downright angry. I fucking hope that the other pro teams are disciplined enough to not look for this video. If caught they should be punished aswell. Gamefy should be lifetime banned. I dont care about their excuses.

Synd's casting is too wonky for the grand finals, and while Lumi is known to be not careful and thoughtful in casting some games, he did well casting previous TI finals, and he complements Tobi well. Ofc, I'd prefer to see Godz, Fear or Kuro instead of either of them, but it can't be helped.

How much games were recorded in that video? if more than three, than it could be a little of worrisome, but it still depends what kind of opponents DK were facing that time. I think everybody expect them hiding as much strats as possible, so it may be a planful distraction anyway.


I don't think hes wonky in any kind of way. I mean.. compared to Lumi? He offers better insight, clearer speech and is a former professional player. Oh well, opinions i suppose. To me it's a clear choice and a bit of a blunder from Valve.

I haven't searched the forums for the video, but i've been reading everything from a lot being revealed to small tidbits. Anyways it's focus away from the game and a shameful move by Gamefy. Really not acceptable behaviour at all
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
Monv18hao
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada627 Posts
July 13 2014 09:13 GMT
#46
it was only their draft against EG

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I'll be going to bed. LIQUID FIGHTING!!! Hopefully I'll wake up to some good news!
“拿梦想当赌注 我怎么舍得输” -ZSMJ
Pandahunterz
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands213 Posts
July 13 2014 10:08 GMT
#47
only first match elimination so others aren't that big of a deal. hope they will still play some good games
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 10:23:44
July 13 2014 10:22 GMT
#48
On July 13 2014 19:08 Pandahunterz wrote:
only first match elimination so others aren't that big of a deal. hope they will still play some good games


earning yourself a second life for the main event isn't that small of a deal either. And for what it's worth winning your bubble bracket secures you another 140k aswell.
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
July 13 2014 10:56 GMT
#49
Hoping for C9 to play good. Really want to see them place high overall in TI
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
July 13 2014 10:56 GMT
#50
Q: why is this called a bubble bracket, is it because of the ephemeral nature of it?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 13 2014 11:31 GMT
#51
On July 13 2014 19:56 wo1fwood wrote:
Q: why is this called a bubble bracket, is it because of the ephemeral nature of it?


Because why wouldn't you call it "bubble bracket" if you can?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
July 13 2014 11:37 GMT
#52
lol Also, holy crap, the most important games of Liquid and LGD's lives are on the line today. A win today (and tomorrow) nets whomever +$450K in winnings.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 11:42:04
July 13 2014 11:40 GMT
#53
Oops I'm dumb.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 13 2014 11:45 GMT
#54
On July 13 2014 20:37 wo1fwood wrote:
lol Also, holy crap, the most important games of Liquid and LGD's lives are on the line today. A win today (and tomorrow) nets whomever +$450K in winnings.


A win for LGD also restores their honour and grants them some well-needed redemption from their loss to Liquid last year :D
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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 13 2014 12:00 GMT
#55
Gonna be a rough day for Liquid, having to beat all three teams in a row.

WE CAN DO IT THO
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Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-13 12:07:41
July 13 2014 12:07 GMT
#56
DK having their strats leaked might cause them some trouble

really annoyed i bet my lina arcana + fallen princess set on DK now
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 13 2014 12:14 GMT
#57
On July 13 2014 21:07 Nymzee wrote:
DK having their strats leaked might cause them some trouble

really annoyed i bet my lina arcana + fallen princess set on DK now


BELIEVE IN DK
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 13 2014 12:27 GMT
#58
you know i might be a bad person but i actually really want to see the translated video(s) that gamefy recorded (after TI4 is done of course). it's not often we get insight into pro thoughts like that.
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DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
July 13 2014 12:28 GMT
#59
Go Liquiiidddd!
So bad my notebook is being repaired. I hope that a Chinese channel I watch will show lgd vs liquid live.

And where do you bet sets and inmortals?
In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 13 2014 12:30 GMT
#60
On July 13 2014 21:27 opterown wrote:
you know i might be a bad person but i actually really want to see the translated video(s) that gamefy recorded (after TI4 is done of course). it's not often we get insight into pro thoughts like that.


The first thing I did when I heard about the situation was to google it haha. Obviously it's bad for DK but I'd be super interested in hearing what goes on during drafts.
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