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Please keep in mind that match fixing accusations still aren't OK.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
July 14 2014 01:07 GMT
#3821
On July 14 2014 10:03 Seraphic wrote:
I think LaNm has been picking since Day 2 for DK hasn't he?

I remember reading some where since LaNm started picking, DK hasn't lost. (I THINK or lost like not as much)

I think Lamn start drafting after the loss to Titan but I am not too sure about that.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 14 2014 01:11 GMT
#3822
On July 14 2014 10:07 RiZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 10:03 Seraphic wrote:
I think LaNm has been picking since Day 2 for DK hasn't he?

I remember reading some where since LaNm started picking, DK hasn't lost. (I THINK or lost like not as much)

I think Lamn start drafting after the loss to Titan but I am not too sure about that.

I'm pretty sure you're right. Lanm has a 100% winrate so far.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 14 2014 01:11 GMT
#3823
On July 14 2014 10:07 RiZu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 10:03 Seraphic wrote:
I think LaNm has been picking since Day 2 for DK hasn't he?

I remember reading some where since LaNm started picking, DK hasn't lost. (I THINK or lost like not as much)

I think Lamn start drafting after the loss to Titan but I am not too sure about that.


He did, his first draft was vs Navi'US. They're 6-0 since he took over, from 6-5 to 10-5 and now 2-0 vs C9.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Tulanwarrior
Profile Joined September 2013
Malaysia219 Posts
July 14 2014 01:12 GMT
#3824
I've read in the interview on some article on that said the team decided to change drafters because Burning had problems drafting and carrying out the draft/strategies afterwards due to the immense pressure of carrying and running the in game team decisions.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3932-day-4-event-blog-short-interview-with-71

(here is the link from GGnet. I don't know if there is any issue of posting articles from other sites, abit new here so please forgive me)

I think this is really why most (ingame) captain or drafters are mostly supports because their role is more of to survey the state of the game with wards, checking items progressions etc. Last hitting and maintaining creep equilibrium is something that needs total concentration.
DK 2013-2014, never forget
TheRubicon
Profile Joined February 2013
United States1342 Posts
July 14 2014 01:15 GMT
#3825
On July 14 2014 05:52 kirsed wrote:
I'm an idiot.

[image loading]

we all know that feel xD, i bet on liquid...
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 01:19:57
July 14 2014 01:19 GMT
#3826
Thanks, I hadn't seen that yet. Burning was obviously underperforming in the first half of the groupstages, hopefully we can continue to see the true B-God now the drafting pressure is off his shoulders. Until I read this, I still suspected that they were planning to switch to Lanm at some point all along, but apparently not.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 14 2014 01:21 GMT
#3827
On July 14 2014 09:13 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 09:09 babylon wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:00 Oddball28 wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:57 opterown wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:55 Oddball28 wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:46 opterown wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:39 bakesale wrote:
On July 14 2014 08:27 opterown wrote:
the site still says winner of C/F and not C or F specifically yet afaik

I figured it said that because the first place seed gets to pick which opponent (winner of C or F) they want. I can't find anything to confirm that, though.

oh they get to choose? i guess VG probably won't want to choose DK since they are best buds or something


Im a bit torn atm who i'd actually prefer DK to face off against. If this was pre TI4 i'd say Vici any day of the week. But Vici has proven themselves strong and actually found a style which they are comfortable in. DK lost to EG at The Summit, but won took the bo1 here at Seattle. And EG has also shown that they are still very strong here at TI4. I can't even decide.

but since VG is more stylistic they might be easier to counter e.g. like liquid was smashed by LGD


You could be right, however I thought that when DK was facing off Vici at day 3 they were aware of Vici's very aggressive style, because they deployed it against NewBee with great success. But DK somehow ignored it and played right into Vicis hands and lost the game at 15-20 minutes aswell...

But that was Burning drafting, yeah? XP

(Sorry, Burning. I love ya, man, but your drafting needs some improvement.)

didn't burning draft today too?


LaNm drafted today
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
July 14 2014 01:24 GMT
#3828
Hmm I'm very happy that 71 said so well about Alliance.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
July 14 2014 01:31 GMT
#3829
I feel really sad for Liquid that they came so close to getting to KeyArena, but the few weeks/months just couldn't cut it. They were shaky from the getgo, and truly getting this far is a huge achievement. Look at [A]lliance, Empire was strong ALL year online, etc etc. They outperformed more than a lot of people expected, the competition is just rock solid this year.
Tulanwarrior
Profile Joined September 2013
Malaysia219 Posts
July 14 2014 02:21 GMT
#3830
On July 14 2014 10:19 Orome wrote:
Thanks, I hadn't seen that yet. Burning was obviously underperforming in the first half of the groupstages, hopefully we can continue to see the true B-God now the drafting pressure is off his shoulders. Until I read this, I still suspected that they were planning to switch to Lanm at some point all along, but apparently not.


No problem. I too had the same theory that they would swap to LanM during phase 3/main event. I was quite surprised that this was not the case. Which makes me curious if this might be some of the disagreement that iceiceice was talking about in the team.

From the outside, I think alot of people would agree that LanM's drafts really suit DK's style and if they had agreed on that than maybe they would have done much better especially such a dominant run during SL9 (which meant winning instead of second places, damn we put such high expectations on DK). Maybe they did tried it out but lost alot during scrims with IG/NB etc. which made them hesitant. The rumored boycott of DK by chinese teams probably doesn't help as well.

All in all we can only speculate but I'm really happy with DK right now. It feels like they've found their groove, playing well and enjoying their Dota. This is what I think most DK fans wanted to see, DK being DK.
DK 2013-2014, never forget
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
July 14 2014 02:35 GMT
#3831
When/If LanM drafts start losing they can swap in Mushi do ho ho.
TranslatorBaa!
IMMABEASTBRUH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States271 Posts
July 14 2014 02:39 GMT
#3832
Really poor showing from Liquid today

Looked like 4 pubstars and qojqva trying to compete against a team with a real strategy.

OOF
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
July 14 2014 05:37 GMT
#3833
A bit sad about Liquid, however they DID have some awesome games this TI, and performed really well. It's just that i'd like to see more of them :p
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
July 14 2014 06:50 GMT
#3834
On July 14 2014 11:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
When/If LanM drafts start losing they can swap in Mushi do ho ho.


Then u can expect sand king :D:D just like true SEA player he is .
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
July 14 2014 07:58 GMT
#3835
On July 14 2014 10:15 TheRubicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 05:52 kirsed wrote:
I'm an idiot.

[image loading]

we all know that feel xD, i bet on liquid...

Cloud 9 was a good bet at these odds. They had a 35% chance to win at least.
super gg
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 14 2014 11:15 GMT
#3836
On July 14 2014 16:58 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 10:15 TheRubicon wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:52 kirsed wrote:
I'm an idiot.

[image loading]

we all know that feel xD, i bet on liquid...

Cloud 9 was a good bet at these odds. They had a 35% chance to win at least.


I'll never understand where people get these arbitrary numbers from
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Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
July 14 2014 13:32 GMT
#3837
On July 14 2014 20:15 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 16:58 cecek wrote:
On July 14 2014 10:15 TheRubicon wrote:
On July 14 2014 05:52 kirsed wrote:
I'm an idiot.

[image loading]

we all know that feel xD, i bet on liquid...

Cloud 9 was a good bet at these odds. They had a 35% chance to win at least.


I'll never understand where people get these arbitrary numbers from

Past results, factoring in that there are a lot of dk fanboys, circumstances, etc.
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-14 20:59:46
July 14 2014 20:59 GMT
#3838
Wrong thread rofl
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