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thanks! you are an awesome human being :D
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On September 02 2012 15:29 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 15:12 Vimsey wrote:On September 02 2012 15:06 Sickkiee wrote:On September 02 2012 15:01 WarWolf wrote:On September 02 2012 14:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 02 2012 14:58 Sickkiee wrote:On September 02 2012 14:56 Shikyo wrote:On September 02 2012 14:55 Azarkon wrote: WP by DK. I hope they're able to draft / perform better tomorrow. I think they have a great shot of taking down iG, which is still reeling from their loss to Na'Vi, while I feel DK has gained a better mindset.
Zenith... Sad but this is the furthest you're able to go. I don't think they underperformed and I don't think they overperformed. They played their level and that's how far it took them. It's like I've seen a ghost I agree kind of, though I was a bit surprised Zenith was able to go quite this far. Zenith is actually quite a good team as you clearly just saw with their run in TI2. yeah, I think Na`vi showed us that anything can happen in game 1, if it were a bo3 it could have been very different. I don't know, i feel more like there is a real gap between Zenith and DK (DK has beaten them 2 0 in groupstage). But that not mean Zenith is weak. I just think the ranking is : lgd/navi/ig/dk > zenith > others Well yeah, clearly DK is better as I expected them to 2-0 Zenith if it was a BO3, however they performed at the level they are currently at, which is clearly top 5 in the world. If I remember correctly, Zenith only started competing in Dota 2 recently (in the past few months) with 2ish months of bootcamp and they could only vs SEA teams with chinese teams bootcamping for months on end, thus only vsing sub par (no offense) teams and stomping them. I thought Zenith vs DK was 1-1 in the groupstage but watched so many games now. But yea it must help so much to have stronger scrim partners. Ive been a fan of DK for a while so hoped they would make the Semis, though i think that could be as far as they go. They were 1-1 with DK. They lost 0-2 to LGD, then 0-2 again in the brackets. SEA teams buckle under pressure, unfortunately. You look at Orange and Zenith's game in the Bo1s and it's easy to see the mistakes they're making. Zenith had the second game won vs. LGD and their loss there shook them to the core. In this a lot comes down to mentality. In a 5v5 every player has to be at his best to win. One player not being on top of his game is able to cost you the entire match. This is what happened to Zenith.
exactly the same thing happened to iG in iG Na'Vi game two
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Awesome games today, can't wait for the final day of TI.
ALL the teams really have shown that they deserve to be there, even the ones that didn't make top 8. However, the top 4 have really shown that they are a step above the rest, and I feel that any of the 4 are capable of winning the million. :D
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Just watched 2nd game NaVi vs iG W O W !!!!!!!!
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On September 02 2012 16:02 vanhio wrote: Just watched 2nd game NaVi vs iG W O W !!!!!!!! im actually about to go and re watch that game. was so fucking good.
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Whoah, Azarkon is the ultimate Navi fan. The conspiracy stories are over the top but oh well. =) It's clear nothing will change his view, so as someone else said let the Navi fanboys be. Personally I think its good for the scene to have strong teams from each region around. Too bad Zenith couldn't go further. Don't think they are as good as iG or LGD, but DK and Zenith feel pretty close.
Glad Navi looks back on form, think LGD are stronger but could be 2-1 either way. Team that wins the winner's bracket will probably go on to win the finals. Unlike starcraft, playing loads of tense dota games is really tiring.
Think LGD will beat Navi 2-1, iG will beat DK 2-1, iG vs Navi could be 2-1 either way. LGD having lots of time to rest will be more focused come finals and win the championship.
All the potential stories are q epic: - LGD drops no games throughout - Navi repeat as champions - iG drops to LB and goes on an epic run to the championship (or DK but unlikely)
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Lalalaland34501 Posts
So anyway, just woke up. Went to sleep after game 2 iG against Na`Vi. What games should I watch?
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On September 02 2012 16:12 Firebolt145 wrote: So anyway, just woke up. Went to sleep after game 2 iG against Na`Vi. What games should I watch? finish the Na'Vi vs iG series. And EHOME vs Orange.
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Last day incoming and one thing every team have in mind ...
Only puppey can outpick Naga + DS + Tide...
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On September 02 2012 16:27 Elios wrote: Last day incoming and one thing every team have in mind ...
Only puppey can outpick Naga + DS + Tide... Um they didn't outpick them <.<
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On September 02 2012 16:43 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 16:27 Elios wrote: Last day incoming and one thing every team have in mind ...
Only puppey can outpick Naga + DS + Tide... Um they didn't outpick them <.< ofc they did ...
That Yunero + enigma + rubick was to counter Naga siren lol ...
Enigma rushed bkb and Yunero got vanguard to not die in 1 shot ...
Naga uts... Navi has 2 heroes imunes and Enigma is one of them... they are all stacked up so Spin + Blackhole + Steal Ravage ...
That was obvius, because the only other way of playing these heroes were to push early ... they didnt until enigma had BKB and yunero had enough farm..
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dendi had also a blink and blinked away before ravage came afaik
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While Na'vi's picks against IG were great, I'm not convinced that it was Navi that outpicked them as much as it was IG choking and making some major mistakes over and over again.
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On September 02 2012 16:47 Elios wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 16:43 Shikyo wrote:On September 02 2012 16:27 Elios wrote: Last day incoming and one thing every team have in mind ...
Only puppey can outpick Naga + DS + Tide... Um they didn't outpick them <.< ofc they did ... That Yunero + enigma + rubick was to counter Naga siren lol ... Enigma rushed bkb and Yunero got vanguard to not die in 1 shot ... Naga uts... Navi has 2 heroes imunes and Enigma is one of them... they are all stacked up so Spin + Blackhole + Steal Ravage ... That was obvius, because the only other way of playing these heroes were to push early ... they didnt until enigma had BKB and yunero had enough farm.. Playing well =/= outpicking ._.
Naga ult =/= entire team
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On September 02 2012 16:54 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 16:47 Elios wrote:On September 02 2012 16:43 Shikyo wrote:On September 02 2012 16:27 Elios wrote: Last day incoming and one thing every team have in mind ...
Only puppey can outpick Naga + DS + Tide... Um they didn't outpick them <.< ofc they did ... That Yunero + enigma + rubick was to counter Naga siren lol ... Enigma rushed bkb and Yunero got vanguard to not die in 1 shot ... Naga uts... Navi has 2 heroes imunes and Enigma is one of them... they are all stacked up so Spin + Blackhole + Steal Ravage ... That was obvius, because the only other way of playing these heroes were to push early ... they didnt until enigma had BKB and yunero had enough farm.. Playing well =/= outpicking ._. Naga ult =/= entire team
failing execution horribly =/= getting outpicked
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Brunei Darussalam760 Posts
On September 02 2012 16:54 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 16:47 Elios wrote:On September 02 2012 16:43 Shikyo wrote:On September 02 2012 16:27 Elios wrote: Last day incoming and one thing every team have in mind ...
Only puppey can outpick Naga + DS + Tide... Um they didn't outpick them <.< ofc they did ... That Yunero + enigma + rubick was to counter Naga siren lol ... Enigma rushed bkb and Yunero got vanguard to not die in 1 shot ... Naga uts... Navi has 2 heroes imunes and Enigma is one of them... they are all stacked up so Spin + Blackhole + Steal Ravage ... That was obvius, because the only other way of playing these heroes were to push early ... they didnt until enigma had BKB and yunero had enough farm.. Playing well =/= outpicking ._. Naga ult =/= entire team
Puppey himself said that iG was outpicked during that game.
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If you think Navi didnt outpick IG, i think we might have a few master minds here that are better than puppey ... cause he said that the Naga was predicted and he picked Yunero just to do that strategy and that they outpicked them,...
Maybe you guys should be at the TI2.
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On September 02 2012 17:06 Elios wrote: If you think Navi didnt outpick IG, i think we might have a few master minds here that are better than puppey ... cause he said that the Naga was predicted and he picked Yunero just to do that strategy and that they outpicked them,...
Maybe you guys should be at the TI2. What did IG captain say?
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On September 02 2012 17:13 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2012 17:06 Elios wrote: If you think Navi didnt outpick IG, i think we might have a few master minds here that are better than puppey ... cause he said that the Naga was predicted and he picked Yunero just to do that strategy and that they outpicked them,...
Maybe you guys should be at the TI2. What did IG captain say?
About?...
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