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.AK
United States561 Posts
On September 02 2012 14:56 IcedBacon wrote: Dendi's sister? http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/4g14se/dota-2-exclusive-documentary-trailer Dendi's sister is about 1:25 in. There was some talk on Reddit on how she was pretty, etc. when it came out. | ||
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Seiferz
United States640 Posts
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dtz
5834 Posts
Maybe it's a chicken and egg thing though. If you are winning , no need to change roster. But there is something to be said about actually sticking with your teams and tough it out. A lot of teams can stand to learn from that. | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:01 WarWolf wrote: I don't know, i feel more like there is a real gap between Zenith and DK (DK has beaten them 2 0 in groupstage). But that not mean Zenith is weak. I just think the ranking is : lgd/navi/ig/dk > zenith > others Well yeah, clearly DK is better as I expected them to 2-0 Zenith if it was a BO3, however they performed at the level they are currently at, which is clearly top 5 in the world. If I remember correctly, Zenith only started competing in Dota 2 recently (in the past few months) with 2ish months of bootcamp and they could only vs SEA teams with chinese teams bootcamping for months on end, thus only vsing sub par (no offense) teams and stomping them. | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:06 Sickkiee wrote: Well yeah, clearly DK is better as I expected them to 2-0 Zenith if it was a BO3, however they performed at the level they are currently at, which is clearly top 5 in the world. If I remember correctly, Zenith only started competing in Dota 2 recently (in the past few months) with 2ish months of bootcamp and they could only vs SEA teams with chinese teams bootcamping for months on end, thus only vsing sub par (no offense) teams and stomping them. No Zenith has been playing since the last TI. They scrim a lot with the Chinese actually. I don't think this is a matter of preparation for them. Maybe one thing that is not so ideal was that Loda joined them way too late for them to gel properly. So they kinda had to use him in a limited way ( long laners). When Loda was Slardar earlier, often he was either too early or too late. There were a lot of times he hit multiple heroes with crushes but his team were not there, or that he arrived late to fights. Some problem with disruption-crushes timing as well. That and hyhy really underperformed this tournament imo. He didn't play well except for some Morph games in which Zenith was stomping. | ||
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Vimsey
United Kingdom2235 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:06 Sickkiee wrote: Well yeah, clearly DK is better as I expected them to 2-0 Zenith if it was a BO3, however they performed at the level they are currently at, which is clearly top 5 in the world. If I remember correctly, Zenith only started competing in Dota 2 recently (in the past few months) with 2ish months of bootcamp and they could only vs SEA teams with chinese teams bootcamping for months on end, thus only vsing sub par (no offense) teams and stomping them. I thought Zenith vs DK was 1-1 in the groupstage but watched so many games now. But yea it must help so much to have stronger scrim partners. Ive been a fan of DK for a while so hoped they would make the Semis, though i think that could be as far as they go. | ||
shostakovich
Brazil1429 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:10 dtz wrote: No Zenith has been playing since the last TI. They scrim a lot with the Chinese actually. I don't think this is a matter of preparation for them. Maybe one thing that is not so ideal was that Loda joined them way too late for them to gel properly. So they kinda had to use him in a limited way ( long laners). When Loda was Slardar earlier, often he was either too early or too late. There were a lot of times he hit multiple heroes with crushes but his team were not there, or that he arrived late to fights. Some problem with disruption-crushes timing as well. That and hyhy really underperformed this tournament imo. He didn't play well except for some Morph games in which Zenith was stomping. i think its more than that too, iceiceice played extremely inconsistent and im not sure if they really had a hard set captain in those games | ||
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:10 dtz wrote: No Zenith has been playing since the last TI. They scrim a lot with the Chinese actually. I don't think this is a matter of preparation for them. Maybe one thing that is not so ideal was that Loda joined them way too late for them to gel properly. So they kinda had to use him in a limited way ( long laners). When Loda was Slardar earlier, often he was either too early or too late. There were a lot of times he hit multiple heroes with crushes but his team were not there, or that he arrived late to fights. Some problem with disruption-crushes timing as well. That and hyhy really underperformed this tournament imo. He didn't play well except for some Morph games in which Zenith was stomping. Sorry what I meant is when Loda joined, the whole team pretty much joined (considering Loda is a dota 1 legend). They had to get new synergy and that comes with time. Should've worded my last statement properly. | ||
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
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Sickkiee
Japan607 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:19 Implenia wrote: I still think it is weird that Loda was always so distant from his team during the pick / ban. Maybe they feel more comfortable speaking SG than English? Loda may put in a few suggestions in English but he feels it's better to leave it to the team as they have worked together for a longer time etc? Actually a good point. I hope they ask him that in an interview! | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:12 Vimsey wrote: I thought Zenith vs DK was 1-1 in the groupstage but watched so many games now. But yea it must help so much to have stronger scrim partners. Ive been a fan of DK for a while so hoped they would make the Semis, though i think that could be as far as they go. They were 1-1 with DK. They lost 0-2 to LGD, then 0-2 again in the brackets. SEA teams buckle under pressure, unfortunately. You look at Orange and Zenith's game in the Bo1s and it's easy to see the mistakes they're making. Zenith had the second game won vs. LGD and their loss there shook them to the core. In this a lot comes down to mentality. In a 5v5 every player has to be at his best to win. One player not being on top of his game is able to cost you the entire match. This is what happened to Zenith. | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:25 Sickkiee wrote: Maybe they feel more comfortable speaking SG than English? Loda may put in a few suggestions in English but he feels it's better to leave it to the team as they have worked together for a longer time etc? Actually a good point. I hope they ask him that in an interview! But from all the teams it was only for Zenith so visible. At least for me. So I know it is only speculation but still raises the question about the teams morale. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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morlakaix
United States860 Posts
anyone know where i can find this vod? | ||
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dtz
5834 Posts
Basically Loda liked to give his own suggestions because he used to be captain for a long time. So it agitated him a lot if his suggestion was rejected. The rest of Zenith feels like the main drafters should be hyhy and ice because they have known the rest of the team for much longer. So all of them decided that it's best that Loda stay out of the drafting phase to avoid conflicts and frustrations. | ||
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
On September 02 2012 15:33 morlakaix wrote: there was a really good comeback game with EHOME today from what I have been hearing, I missed most of the games today anyone know where i can find this vod? http://www.dota2.com/international/mainevent/schedule/saturday/ Just click on the match page of the match. | ||
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