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drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
August 28 2012 06:10 GMT
#3661
On August 28 2012 15:08 Windwaker wrote:
here is his apology

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/yxyih/tobiwan_refusing_to_cast_international_matches_on/c5ztmob

so now we can talk about dota again ^-^



Can we talk about Tobi more? cause this issue was the first in a long time where much of the dota community agreed on. Was kinda fun ^^
...
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 28 2012 06:16 GMT
#3662
On August 28 2012 15:10 drew-chan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 15:08 Windwaker wrote:
here is his apology

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/yxyih/tobiwan_refusing_to_cast_international_matches_on/c5ztmob

so now we can talk about dota again ^-^



Can we talk about Tobi more? cause this issue was the first in a long time where much of the dota community agreed on. Was kinda fun ^^


NO. Fuck you! Hao>Tobi!
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 28 2012 06:17 GMT
#3663
Does anyone else enjoy watching the Russian streams sometimes, despite not speaking a word of it? :p

If I don't like how a game is being casted, or there is no English stream, I'll gladly tune into the Russians. It kind've reminds me of watching Starcraft casts in Korean, haha.
you gotta dance
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
August 28 2012 06:19 GMT
#3664
On August 28 2012 15:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Does anyone else enjoy watching the Russian streams sometimes, despite not speaking a word of it? :p

If I don't like how a game is being casted, or there is no English stream, I'll gladly tune into the Russians. It kind've reminds me of watching Starcraft casts in Korean, haha.


Yep, watched a few Russian games yesterday where there was no English commentary, and it was fun. Mainly because Russian is an awesome sounding language.
shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
August 28 2012 06:20 GMT
#3665


This video gives you some idea of how much production is being done for the main event.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 28 2012 06:21 GMT
#3666
Who are your top five underperformers? I'd say, in no real order, Hao, Dendi, rOtk, Fear and Zenith. On the other hand, Ferrari, ChuaN, xiao8 (BEST CHINA SPECTER STILL) and all of coL have been really, really good.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 06:24:03
August 28 2012 06:22 GMT
#3667
On August 28 2012 15:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Does anyone else enjoy watching the Russian streams sometimes, despite not speaking a word of it? :p

If I don't like how a game is being casted, or there is no English stream, I'll gladly tune into the Russians. It kind've reminds me of watching Starcraft casts in Korean, haha.

It's hilarious when you understand bits of it, like idk who was casting but shadow shaman casted hex and the commentator was yelling "BAK BAK BAK" like a chicken in the middle of shoutcasting the team fight. Fucking hilarious
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 06:33:51
August 28 2012 06:33 GMT
#3668
On August 28 2012 15:21 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Who are your top five underperformers? I'd say, in no real order, Hao, Dendi, rOtk, Fear and Zenith. On the other hand, Ferrari, ChuaN, xiao8 (BEST CHINA SPECTER STILL) and all of coL have been really, really good.


hyhy.hao.demon.fear.

Dendi were really outclassed yesterday especially against orange. And it completely exposed him because it was mirror matchups too. Being destroyed by mushi as invoker against qop. And then actually losing as qop against invoker to yamateh. Won't call it underperforming to lose against Y-God and Mushi respectively though.



drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
August 28 2012 06:44 GMT
#3669
On August 28 2012 15:33 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 15:21 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Who are your top five underperformers? I'd say, in no real order, Hao, Dendi, rOtk, Fear and Zenith. On the other hand, Ferrari, ChuaN, xiao8 (BEST CHINA SPECTER STILL) and all of coL have been really, really good.


hyhy.hao.demon.fear.

Dendi were really outclassed yesterday especially against orange. And it completely exposed him because it was mirror matchups too. Being destroyed by mushi as invoker against qop. And then actually losing as qop against invoker to yamateh. Won't call it underperforming to lose against Y-God and Mushi respectively though.





Its too bad Orange aren't winning more of their matches, would have loved to see them play Ygod with nevermore as a fun strat if they had a cushion.
...
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 28 2012 06:45 GMT
#3670
Lol Group b 4 teams with 6-6 navi tf, ehome, orange
and today we will see navi-tf
and ehome - orange

As if somebody in valve saw that coming.
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 06:48:47
August 28 2012 06:46 GMT
#3671
Some nice videos where BBC (name of Chinese caster, not the TV network) interviews XiaoLuo, BurNing, Yao, Zhou, Hao among others at TI2. No English subtitles though.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQzOTQ0NDA4.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDQ0MDM0NDI0.html
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 28 2012 06:48 GMT
#3672
Make subs :D?
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
August 28 2012 06:51 GMT
#3673
On August 28 2012 15:20 shostakovich wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgoyONjazDw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This video gives you some idea of how much production is being done for the main event.


thanks for posting, that was sick

valve is so impressive
i wear a kitten scarf
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 28 2012 06:52 GMT
#3674
On August 28 2012 15:44 drew-chan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 15:33 dtz wrote:
On August 28 2012 15:21 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Who are your top five underperformers? I'd say, in no real order, Hao, Dendi, rOtk, Fear and Zenith. On the other hand, Ferrari, ChuaN, xiao8 (BEST CHINA SPECTER STILL) and all of coL have been really, really good.


hyhy.hao.demon.fear.

Dendi were really outclassed yesterday especially against orange. And it completely exposed him because it was mirror matchups too. Being destroyed by mushi as invoker against qop. And then actually losing as qop against invoker to yamateh. Won't call it underperforming to lose against Y-God and Mushi respectively though.





Its too bad Orange aren't winning more of their matches, would have loved to see them play Ygod with nevermore as a fun strat if they had a cushion.

its really because their strats/picks arent very good, and as a team its basically mushi+yamateh+good playing from xtinct saving the day for orange most of the time and this limits the teams lineup flexibility and consistency in play greatly.

i say this as an orange fan
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 28 2012 06:57 GMT
#3675
at least he apologised and he will recast the game he missed. good good

also that sayuri saga is :O
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 28 2012 07:02 GMT
#3676
Hao's not underperforming. He's just being Hao.
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
August 28 2012 07:03 GMT
#3677
On August 28 2012 15:33 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 15:21 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Who are your top five underperformers? I'd say, in no real order, Hao, Dendi, rOtk, Fear and Zenith. On the other hand, Ferrari, ChuaN, xiao8 (BEST CHINA SPECTER STILL) and all of coL have been really, really good.


hyhy.hao.demon.fear.

Dendi were really outclassed yesterday especially against orange. And it completely exposed him because it was mirror matchups too. Being destroyed by mushi as invoker against qop. And then actually losing as qop against invoker to yamateh. Won't call it underperforming to lose against Y-God and Mushi respectively though.





I thought that fear, and especially Demon really stepped it up in their last 2 series today.
Jieun <3
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 28 2012 07:06 GMT
#3678
On August 28 2012 16:03 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 15:33 dtz wrote:
On August 28 2012 15:21 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Who are your top five underperformers? I'd say, in no real order, Hao, Dendi, rOtk, Fear and Zenith. On the other hand, Ferrari, ChuaN, xiao8 (BEST CHINA SPECTER STILL) and all of coL have been really, really good.


hyhy.hao.demon.fear.

Dendi were really outclassed yesterday especially against orange. And it completely exposed him because it was mirror matchups too. Being destroyed by mushi as invoker against qop. And then actually losing as qop against invoker to yamateh. Won't call it underperforming to lose against Y-God and Mushi respectively though.





I thought that fear, and especially Demon really stepped it up in their last 2 series today.


I didn't see those games. In the ones I watched yesterday, Fear was farming when he should have been in teamfights, like all the damn time. He played pretty similarly to an angry raging pub player.
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Jutranjo
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia140 Posts
August 28 2012 07:10 GMT
#3679
I'm surprised Reddit didn't do what it does best and start mailing shit to sponsors. I guess the dota2 sub forum will know about that next time they feel like losing their shit over pointless stuff.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
August 28 2012 07:11 GMT
#3680
My understanding of Tobi's post is that he wasn't getting paid to do these games, while he will be getting paid for the seeded rounds.

It kind of reminds me of when Tasteless decided not to cast unless he had a proper contract, although that was for the benefit of other casters. But in both cases, it brings up the issue of whether casting esports events is an actual job that deserves compensation.
Imagine if somebody told two professional football teams to play that they weren't being paid for or that they weren't contractually obligated to play. Or imagine if they told an announcer (like John Madden or Al Michaels or Mike Breen/Jeff van Gundy) of me sport that they weren't going to pay him to do some games before a tournament, but he should do it anyway. He probably won't do it, unless it's some potentially historic game that he doesn't want to miss.

For professional jobs, you only do it for free for your own reasons or because you want to. It's in the interest of other casters (except for maybe the Chinese ones) to cast for free, because it promotes their casting to a larger audience. I'm concluding that for Tobi (based on his comments and general reasoning), that he casts enough games that normal games won't promote him so much as good games.

In this case the negative press is going to hurt him more than casting dull games would be, so I'm guessing he'll start casting anyway. I'm neutral on it, but I'm guessing he sees casting these unpaid games as a hobby.

And I think Tobi's a contractor, not an employee. I can't see him getting fired for not casting games for which he's not getting paid, I'm sure that would be illegal.
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