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Brazil1429 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:22 TanGeng wrote:I know I asked this yesterday but I missed the answer: Did you have manually transcribe game results? Yes. The current replay parser doesn't give you a lot of info and only access matchmaking data. So we need to add things manually. But it'll change in the near future.
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On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position.
I wonder if any other caster doing TI2 would complain in this way no matter how many stomps they had to cast.
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Canada2068 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:31 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 13:30 Azarkon wrote:Xiao8 is chastising TF players now? Well, fair is fair - juxtaposed with LGD, TF isn't looking that prepared. They also proceeded to stomp Tongfu 2-0 in that semifinal match, so he obviously wasn't all talk. Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 13:31 CountChocula wrote:On August 28 2012 13:28 TheYango wrote: Tongfu has the ability to play to iG and LGD's caliber. At the beginning of the season in ACE DotA league in China they were virtually unstoppable.
According to Xiao8 in an interview before their semifinal match for ACE DotA though, he said that two certain players on Tongfu had been slacking off and not practicing that hard. "I won't name names, but you two know who you are." Kabu and who else? My guess was Hao, but honestly I have no clue. Also worth noting is that when Chuan guest-commentated a Tongfu match for ACE, he effectively called Hao the weak link on Tongfu--saying that the other 4 players take control of the midgame, but as 1st position carry he doesn't play good safe DotA like he should and throws games that they should win because of it. 2009 says Hao doesn't have the safe temperament to play position 1 also.
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On August 28 2012 13:44 eAZy1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position. I wonder if any other caster doing TI2 would complain in this way no matter how many stomps they had to cast. complain is one thing. but going on to abandoning a game arranged for him to cast (leaving it with no english casters) and cat a "bigger" game that already has an english caster. that being said what's with the issue with which matches are the best. this is ti2 for gods sake.
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Brazil1429 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position. I understand his position. But the problem is that he was announced as the caster for TongFu vs iG, for example, and he didn't cast it. I don't care if he suddenly decides to cast another match, but he should've casted TongFu vs iG. It was announced yesterday to everybody.
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Tobi stop causing unnecessary drama. T_T
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On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position.
Here's why he's wrong.
First, it's the biggest, baddest tournament of the year. On paper, there are no bad matchups. Second, he's cast most, if not all, of the Na'Vi games as the assigned caster. Na'Vi is easily the most famous European team, probably the most well-known team for the audience period - they certainly have the most fans - and are the defending champions. They also have players who Tobi is known to be quite buddy-buddy with. Third, no one can know what the results of the games are going to be in advance. I personally thought iG v Na'Vi had a chance to be a pretty decent matchup; it was the most one-sided smackdown we've seen so far. For him to be getting irritated by match quality is a bit silly. Fourth, whether or not any of those other complaints are valid - and rest assured, they aren't - what he's doing is ultimately hurting fans. Valve contracted with the casters they did for a reason. Their intention was to have English commentary for every game, even when there were three and four matches happening at once. Tobi going off on his own has two effects. It hurts viewers for the games he was supposed to cast, and it hurts the casters whose games he's taking over. It also affects people like Purge - and what follows is ENTIRELY SUPPOSITION - who didn't seem like he was at all ready to cast iG against TongFu. He kept disconnecting and had a bunch of audio issues. For most of the match GoDZ was completely inaudible. He's a professional and a really good caster; the only way I see that happening is if he was a last-minute replacement.
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On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position. What position? He doesn't want to cast "bad games" in his opinion. Let's pass the argument of which games should be considered as bad games, his reason is extremely selfish. He doesn't want to cast bad games, then who will have to? Someone has to cast bad games so that Tobi will be able to cast good games?
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On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position.
It's not hard to understand his position but he's still completely wrong on this. If every caster simply chose whatever the fuck they wanted, half the games wouldn't get cast. He's simply shafting Valve and blowing off the games he's been assigned because he thinks he's too good to be casting anything that isn't top tier. Someone has to cast those games and his sense of entitlement is absolutely appalling. No other caster is making a big deal of this, the other casters aren't all getting homerun games one after the other but they're doing their job so that games don't go on without anyone to cast them.
Tobi is just being an entitled ass.
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On August 28 2012 13:43 Prime`Rib wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 13:36 Oktyabr wrote:On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position. I think people can understand his position just fine, it's just that barely anyone agrees with it. So what? Tobi gonna be the main caster for live games in Seattle. If Dota 2 takes off, he will be the premier caster like Artosis and Tasteless. He got a bigger fish to fry but getting butthurt for some games in prelims stage are just stupid as fuck.
And that sucks. Because of all the casting groups doing coverage, he's the worst. Game knowledge, observing, everything. Sheever's been doing this for less than a year and she's miles better. Fucking 2GD openly admits he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about and he knows more about the game.
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All in all, why did he have to go out of his way to generate content which is already covered by someone else when he could have just been the good guy and do a service for people who want English commentary for all games? It's funny why you would lodge a dispute with Valve. Put yourself in Valve's shoes. What are the implications if they accede to his requests by giving him games with higher "quality"?
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yup, lets witch hunt that mother fucker and hope he burn in fire amirite....
fucking reddit burn everything... sensational journalism and then just wait for some official interview and QQ on how they themselves has been anti witch hunt forever.... disgusting everytime these kinda shit going on and if there is a smart mod care to start banning flamer, they call it fucking censorship.
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So how's about that complexity? Representing for whitey!
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On August 28 2012 13:24 Spicy_Curry wrote: I adore luminous but for some reason i cant stand LD. He just rubs me the wrong way. It feels like he keeps saying: Your idea was good luminous but here is why mine is right _________!!!! Same here... his "analysis" is poor and I feel like he goes even more over the top than toby does at every chance he can get.
edit: I am referring to LD here.
Lumi does just fine.
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On August 28 2012 14:01 NB wrote: yup, lets witch hunt that mother fucker and hope he burn in fire amirite....
fucking reddit burn everything... sensational journalism and then just wait for some official interview and QQ on how they themselves has been anti witch hunt forever.... disgusting everytime these kinda shit going on and if there is a smart mod care to start banning flamer, they call it fucking censorship. I don't think you understand what "sensationalist" means. Tobi even said it himself in his replies, he thinks he deserves better. No one is taking this out of context.
Hell, for one of the most popular casters to be outcast by the community you should realize he did something wrong. Fucking brat-like behavior to leave a game uncasted in protest.
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On August 28 2012 14:01 NB wrote: yup, lets witch hunt that mother fucker and hope he burn in fire amirite....
fucking reddit burn everything... sensational journalism and then just wait for some official interview and QQ on how they themselves has been anti witch hunt forever.... disgusting everytime these kinda shit going on and if there is a smart mod care to start banning flamer, they call it fucking censorship. + Show Spoiler + Calm down there big fella.
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Yea it's not sensationalistic imo.
As tobi put himself
and for streamers like myself and v1lat that commit alot of time to stream many DOTA2 events we do, yes, expect a certain lvl of game to be cast.
Sorry guys, I won't cast games that are not up to my level. That is best left to lesser casters...How disrespectful...
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Email Gabe, Eric and the DotA 2 team. http://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php
Every time I've emailed Gabe and Eric, they've responded. It's an amazing company. Give them your feedback and they will take it onboard.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
On August 28 2012 14:01 NB wrote: yup, lets witch hunt that mother fucker and hope he burn in fire amirite....
fucking reddit burn everything... sensational journalism and then just wait for some official interview and QQ on how they themselves has been anti witch hunt forever.... disgusting everytime these kinda shit going on and if there is a smart mod care to start banning flamer, they call it fucking censorship. To be honest, the pitchforks are justified here. This is unacceptable behavior from the biggest Dota personality, the community needs to make him know we don't like this? What the fuck did you expect? That nobody says a thing?
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On August 28 2012 14:10 Dubzex wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 14:01 NB wrote: yup, lets witch hunt that mother fucker and hope he burn in fire amirite....
fucking reddit burn everything... sensational journalism and then just wait for some official interview and QQ on how they themselves has been anti witch hunt forever.... disgusting everytime these kinda shit going on and if there is a smart mod care to start banning flamer, they call it fucking censorship. + Show Spoiler +Calm down there big fella.
I think the only appropriate response is lololloloolololol.
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