EPTWhy let one game go un-cast in order to cast something that is already covered in english?
Lame.
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
Why let one game go un-cast in order to cast something that is already covered in english? Lame. | ||
shostakovich
Brazil1429 Posts
EDIT: Got the game, info is now complete. | ||
Empyrean
17067 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:17 cecek wrote: He should get fucking fired, that's what should happen... "disagreements"?! Isn't Valve his goddamn employer after all? How does he even dare say that, holy shit. Valve wasn't paying him for the group stages; these are all done voluntarily (according to his post on reddit). His decision was motivated by the fact that he'd probably get more viewers on his stream (and thus more money) by not going according to schedule because he's not contractually obligated to follow it. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:15 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Hm. I guess. Zenith and coL seem to be locked for Winner Bracket so it makes sense. Any particular reason why they have more chance than say the other Chinese teams such as TongFu or EHOME? Is it because iG/LGD know the Chinese teams better? That, and Ehome and TF are both fairly bad vs. other Chinese teams. Ehome hasn't won a single match vs. another Chinese team for ages before TI 2. TF is in a slump vs. other Chinese teams. Ehome has also showed the bulk of their special tactics in the group stages, while I don't think TF has them in the first place. Zenith also showed a couple of special tactics, mind you, but team wise I think they are individually better than Ehome. CoL... They have the X factor, and they know how to beat Asian teams better than every other Western team in this tournament. It's hard to put a finger on why CoL has been doing so well, but I think it comes down to them knowing how to draft, move around the map, and how to deal with Asian timings. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:19 shostakovich wrote: Updated TI12 statistics. It's missing game 2 of TongFu vs iG, it's not avaliable on the client yet. I know I asked this yesterday but I missed the answer: Did you have manually transcribe game results? | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:22 Azarkon wrote: That, and Ehome and TF are both fairly bad vs. other Chinese teams. Ehome hasn't won a single match vs. another Chinese team for ages before TI 2. TF is in a slump vs. other Chinese teams. Ehome has also showed the bulk of their special tactics in the group stages, while I don't think TF has them in the first place. Zenith also showed a couple of special tactics, mind you, but team wise I think they are individually better than Ehome. CoL... They have the X factor, and they know how to beat Asian teams better than every other Western team in this tournament. It's hard to put a finger on why CoL has been doing so well, but I think it comes down to them knowing how to draft, move around the map, and how to deal with Asian timings. Thanks. It's really helpful because I'm still trying to learn about the competitive DotA scene and the various teams and their relationships. ^^ | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:22 Empyrean wrote: Valve wasn't paying him for the group stages; these are all done voluntarily (according to his post on reddit). His decision was motivated by the fact that he'd probably get more viewers on his stream (and thus more money) by not going according to schedule because he's not contractually obligated to follow it. But he's throwing away good-will with Valve. It's not always good to look at the cold hard cash. About the iG vs TF game for those that saw the second one after the first one. + Show Spoiler + Was the second one a 20 minute stomp like the first one? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
According to Xiao8 in an interview before their semifinal match for ACE DotA though, he said that two certain players on Tongfu had been slacking off and not practicing that hard. "I won't name names, but you two know who you are." | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:22 Azarkon wrote: That, and Ehome and TF are both fairly bad vs. other Chinese teams. Ehome hasn't won a single match vs. another Chinese team for ages before TI 2. TF is in a slump vs. other Chinese teams. Ehome has also showed the bulk of their special tactics in the group stages, while I don't think TF has them in the first place. Zenith also showed a couple of special tactics, mind you, but team wise I think they are individually better than Ehome. CoL... They have the X factor, and they know how to beat Asian teams better than every other Western team in this tournament. It's hard to put a finger on why CoL has been doing so well, but I think it comes down to them knowing how to draft, move around the map, and how to deal with Asian timings. On top of this, EHOME was only reformed this year and EHOME 2012 is significantly different from that of the previous years. You have 3 core players remaining the same, but EHOME 2012 has missed out on all other DOTA 1 LAN competitions available in China this year, which implies that their LAN experience as this team is way less than that of the other Chinese teams. I would rate EHOME to be the weakest among all the 5 Chinese teams just because of that. CoL is just downright impressive. They're doing the non-Asian scene really proud by showing solid gameplay so far. On August 28 2012 13:28 TheYango wrote: Tongfu has the ability to play to iG and LGD's caliber. At the beginning of the season in ACE DotA league in China they were virtually unstoppable. According to Xiao8 in an interview before their semifinal match for ACE DotA though, he said that two certain players on Tongfu had been slacking off and not practicing that hard. "I won't name names, but you two know who you are." Not exactly slacking off, I think the exact wording implies that they were actually working during the day and night in shifts. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
 Well, fair is fair - juxtaposed with LGD, TF isn't looking that prepared. | ||
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CountChocula
Canada2068 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:28 TheYango wrote: Tongfu has the ability to play to iG and LGD's caliber. At the beginning of the season in ACE DotA league in China they were virtually unstoppable. According to Xiao8 in an interview before their semifinal match for ACE DotA though, he said that two certain players on Tongfu had been slacking off and not practicing that hard. "I won't name names, but you two know who you are." Kabu and who else? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:30 Azarkon wrote: Xiao8 is chastising TF players now? Well, fair is fair - juxtaposed with LGD, TF isn't looking that prepared. They also proceeded to stomp Tongfu 2-0 in that semifinal match, so he obviously wasn't all talk. My guess was Hao, but honestly I have no clue. Also worth noting is that when Chuan guest-commentated a Tongfu match for ACE, he effectively called Hao the weak link on Tongfu--saying that the other 4 players take control of the midgame, but as 1st position carry he doesn't play good safe DotA like he should and throws games that they should win because of it. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Hao? | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position. I think people can understand his position just fine, it's just that barely anyone agrees with it. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:32 MrCon wrote: The pitchforks are out full force I see. For the past 2 days Tobi has always the worst matches to cast, basically I never watched his stream because all the games he had to cast sucked. He just wants to be able to cast the games he wants, what's the big deal, and I can understand he's fed up having to cast LGD vs M5 stomp number 6542. The bandwagon is strong in this one, I can't believe no one can understand his position. He is in no position to make demands... Valve are his employers. And the argument about not getting paid also makes no sense. He would get no ad revenue whatsoever if Valve didn't organize the event in the first place. And he's getting featured on their website. He should be grateful if anything. | ||
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ssi.bal-listic
United States568 Posts
I probably prefer Lumi/Nebu1a or even Lumi/Bballin more | ||
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Prime`Rib
United States613 Posts
On August 28 2012 13:36 Oktyabr wrote: I think people can understand his position just fine, it's just that barely anyone agrees with it. So what? Tobi gonna be the main caster for live games in Seattle. If Dota 2 takes off, he will be the premier caster like Artosis and Tasteless. He got a bigger fish to fry but getting butthurt for some games in prelims stage are just stupid as fuck. | ||
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