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superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 27 2012 23:08 GMT
#3221
On August 28 2012 08:06 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:05 Kupon3ss wrote:
On August 28 2012 08:01 Ack1027 wrote:
I don't understand chinese but I got a friend who does and just hearing tidbits from him and general attitude from the amount of games he's casted 2009 just kinda seems like ' fuck this tournament ' hahahaha. He's like totally unimpressed with all the play.

But I now know how non-koreans felt during live korean casts in broodwar. I wish I could understand 2009 very badly.


2009 really hasn't played/watched much dota2 so he gets pretty confused at engine and meta differences

well he went "fuck this tourney" because his mike wasn't working and it was 7 am in china~, so zzzzzz time

i think also the skill level is lower, the chinese in dota1 were playing some really sick games, we havent quite seen that level of gameplay in dota2 yet



That's mainly because they haven't even competed vs one another for the most part. Orange vs IG was pretty high level for the vast majority of the game.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 27 2012 23:09 GMT
#3222
On August 28 2012 08:01 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
morphling hero of the tournament so far.

also mouz playing borderline stupid most of the time which is sad


Yeah, especially yesterday, he was picked so much. Sounded like even the commentators were sick of seeing him getting picked. We need more variety, like when we got pudge picked and it was like, yes!
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
August 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#3223
On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote:
I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting.

what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 27 2012 23:11 GMT
#3224
On August 28 2012 07:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 07:51 Azarkon wrote:
iG have played standard every single game thus far.

standard? luna pick sure isnt standard, also BH building phase > drums > heart isnt standard.

The heart pickup was specific to that dk vs al game.

It was a reaction to the purely magic damage output of the al lineup. Notice that they went high ground after 3 of their heroes completed hearts.
MahKh
Profile Joined February 2012
144 Posts
August 27 2012 23:11 GMT
#3225
On August 28 2012 08:10 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote:
I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting.

what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items

mirana was played as the number 4 using the chinese system in the games by col, panda was played as a 5 in the games by mtw
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 27 2012 23:11 GMT
#3226
coL taking the first game from TF. This sets them up very well in their group and is able to result in the first loss of a Chinese team this tournament.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
August 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3227
On August 28 2012 08:11 hideo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 07:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On August 28 2012 07:51 Azarkon wrote:
iG have played standard every single game thus far.

standard? luna pick sure isnt standard, also BH building phase > drums > heart isnt standard.

The heart pickup was specific to that dk vs al game.

It was a reaction to the purely magic damage output of the al lineup. Notice that they went high ground after 3 of their heroes completed hearts.

oh i didnt see that game, link to vod? i was refering to the iG v Na'Vi game
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#3228
USA USA USA
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
August 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#3229
X_X first game lost by a Chinese team today. Thank god.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3230
21 minutes
orange ggs
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 23:15:34
August 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3231
On August 28 2012 08:10 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote:
I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting.

what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items


Do not remember the Mirana, but Kebab is playing Brewmaster as hard support. He's pulling but has 3-4 creepkills more than the offlane Beastmaster. Enchantress takes most of the jungle and Leshrac and OD are played in lanes so brewmaster gets almost nothing.
edit: mahKh too fast
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3232
wait which chinese team lost?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
August 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#3233
ehome lost vs mtw?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
August 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#3234
On August 28 2012 08:14 flamewheel wrote:
wait which chinese team lost?


TongFu..they went super late game vs a super early game composition.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
August 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#3235
I can't see pudge working in this O.O
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
August 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#3236
On August 28 2012 08:15 flamewheel wrote:
ehome lost vs mtw?


that match is still running. should be col vs tongfu
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
August 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#3237
On August 28 2012 08:05 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:01 Ack1027 wrote:
I don't understand chinese but I got a friend who does and just hearing tidbits from him and general attitude from the amount of games he's casted 2009 just kinda seems like ' fuck this tournament ' hahahaha. He's like totally unimpressed with all the play.

But I now know how non-koreans felt during live korean casts in broodwar. I wish I could understand 2009 very badly.


2009 really hasn't played/watched much dota2 so he gets pretty confused at engine and meta differences

well he went "fuck this tourney" because his mike wasn't working and it was 7 am in china~, so zzzzzz time

He watched a ton of dota2 to prepare for TI2. In his recent vods, he's constantly talking about his impressions of the foreign teams and foreign players, as well as mentioning spectator UI improvements.

I think his main reaction is mild disappointment at foreign teams' understanding of strategy. He was also worried about a "chilling effect" on dota competitive scene outside of china, if chinese domination of the tournament continues.

coL taking a game off of tongfu. It seems like they took a page out of ehome's book. Carry tiny defeating a chinese hopeful.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
August 27 2012 23:16 GMT
#3238
aL Pudge, I've seen Pudge picked three times very recently and each time he's gone on an absolute tear. Let's see if aL can do the same.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3239
Obvious special tactic by AL, they are outclassed hard by LGD so they need to try this.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
August 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#3240
On August 28 2012 08:14 smr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 08:10 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote:
I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting.

what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items


Do not remember the Mirana, but Kebab is playing Brewmaster as hard support. He's pulling but has 3-4 creepkills more than the offlane Beastmaster. Enchantress takes most of the jungle and Leshrac and OD are played in lanes so brewmaster gets almost nothing.
edit: mahKh too fast

hmm im watching the game now, i know you shouldnt judge the usefulness of a strategy off of one game, but hes 0-4-0 and its the first time ive seen a panda play at 5, when he is normally 1 or 2.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
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