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On August 28 2012 08:06 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 08:05 Kupon3ss wrote:On August 28 2012 08:01 Ack1027 wrote: I don't understand chinese but I got a friend who does and just hearing tidbits from him and general attitude from the amount of games he's casted 2009 just kinda seems like ' fuck this tournament ' hahahaha. He's like totally unimpressed with all the play.
But I now know how non-koreans felt during live korean casts in broodwar. I wish I could understand 2009 very badly. 2009 really hasn't played/watched much dota2 so he gets pretty confused at engine and meta differences well he went "fuck this tourney" because his mike wasn't working and it was 7 am in china~, so zzzzzz time i think also the skill level is lower, the chinese in dota1 were playing some really sick games, we havent quite seen that level of gameplay in dota2 yet
That's mainly because they haven't even competed vs one another for the most part. Orange vs IG was pretty high level for the vast majority of the game.
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On August 28 2012 08:01 BeMannerDuPenner wrote: morphling hero of the tournament so far.
also mouz playing borderline stupid most of the time which is sad
Yeah, especially yesterday, he was picked so much. Sounded like even the commentators were sick of seeing him getting picked. We need more variety, like when we got pudge picked and it was like, yes!
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On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote: I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting. what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items
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On August 28 2012 07:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 07:51 Azarkon wrote: iG have played standard every single game thus far. standard? luna pick sure isnt standard, also BH building phase > drums > heart isnt standard. The heart pickup was specific to that dk vs al game.
It was a reaction to the purely magic damage output of the al lineup. Notice that they went high ground after 3 of their heroes completed hearts.
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On August 28 2012 08:10 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote: I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting. what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items mirana was played as the number 4 using the chinese system in the games by col, panda was played as a 5 in the games by mtw
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coL taking the first game from TF. This sets them up very well in their group and is able to result in the first loss of a Chinese team this tournament.
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On August 28 2012 08:11 hideo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 07:53 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 07:51 Azarkon wrote: iG have played standard every single game thus far. standard? luna pick sure isnt standard, also BH building phase > drums > heart isnt standard. The heart pickup was specific to that dk vs al game. It was a reaction to the purely magic damage output of the al lineup. Notice that they went high ground after 3 of their heroes completed hearts. oh i didnt see that game, link to vod? i was refering to the iG v Na'Vi game
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X_X first game lost by a Chinese team today. Thank god.
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On August 28 2012 08:10 L3g3nd_ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote: I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting. what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items
Do not remember the Mirana, but Kebab is playing Brewmaster as hard support. He's pulling but has 3-4 creepkills more than the offlane Beastmaster. Enchantress takes most of the jungle and Leshrac and OD are played in lanes so brewmaster gets almost nothing. edit: mahKh too fast
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wait which chinese team lost?
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On August 28 2012 08:14 flamewheel wrote: wait which chinese team lost?
TongFu..they went super late game vs a super early game composition.
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I can't see pudge working in this O.O
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On August 28 2012 08:15 flamewheel wrote: ehome lost vs mtw?
that match is still running. should be col vs tongfu
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On August 28 2012 08:05 Kupon3ss wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 08:01 Ack1027 wrote: I don't understand chinese but I got a friend who does and just hearing tidbits from him and general attitude from the amount of games he's casted 2009 just kinda seems like ' fuck this tournament ' hahahaha. He's like totally unimpressed with all the play.
But I now know how non-koreans felt during live korean casts in broodwar. I wish I could understand 2009 very badly. 2009 really hasn't played/watched much dota2 so he gets pretty confused at engine and meta differences well he went "fuck this tourney" because his mike wasn't working and it was 7 am in china~, so zzzzzz time He watched a ton of dota2 to prepare for TI2. In his recent vods, he's constantly talking about his impressions of the foreign teams and foreign players, as well as mentioning spectator UI improvements.
I think his main reaction is mild disappointment at foreign teams' understanding of strategy. He was also worried about a "chilling effect" on dota competitive scene outside of china, if chinese domination of the tournament continues.
coL taking a game off of tongfu. It seems like they took a page out of ehome's book. Carry tiny defeating a chinese hopeful.
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aL Pudge, I've seen Pudge picked three times very recently and each time he's gone on an absolute tear. Let's see if aL can do the same.
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Obvious special tactic by AL, they are outclassed hard by LGD so they need to try this.
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On August 28 2012 08:14 smr wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 08:10 L3g3nd_ wrote:On August 28 2012 08:07 smr wrote: I really like those support Mirana (col against navi iirc) and support brewmaster (mtw against ehome right now) picks. Might not be the most effective but to somebody without a clue such as myself it seems interesting. what lanes are they in? i think they are probably still at position 2-3, not being a hard support buying wards getting no farm/exp. Mirana can do fairly well with little farm, but is defintely powerful when she gets a couple of items. also because panda relies so heavily on his ulti, it can be effective to not run him as a heavy farmer, as his level 3 ulti is going to be really strong regardless of items Do not remember the Mirana, but Kebab is playing Brewmaster as hard support. He's pulling but has 3-4 creepkills more than the offlane Beastmaster. Enchantress takes most of the jungle and Leshrac and OD are played in lanes so brewmaster gets almost nothing. edit: mahKh too fast hmm im watching the game now, i know you shouldnt judge the usefulness of a strategy off of one game, but hes 0-4-0 and its the first time ive seen a panda play at 5, when he is normally 1 or 2.
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