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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
November 12 2012 12:22 GMT
#481
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CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:25:06
November 12 2012 12:23 GMT
#482
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.

edit: Even AM who comes online 10min before PL would've lost them the game. It's only Void's ulti in teamfights that was keeping them in there.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
November 12 2012 12:23 GMT
#483
so many noobs would have left after that 8-2 beginning. mindblown by iG's awesomeness
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:25:54
November 12 2012 12:24 GMT
#484
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

No stolen Void = IG never had a shot at winning this game.
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:26:44
November 12 2012 12:25 GMT
#485
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono? It's not like they had Luna ulti, Tide ulti, WR shackle+powershot, telekinesis, NS or anything...
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
November 12 2012 12:25 GMT
#486
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 12 2012 12:26 GMT
#487
dat trollosphere
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
November 12 2012 12:26 GMT
#488
Oh wow DK tap out, iG with a really strong teamfight come back from early disadvantage. Very impressed.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:27:22
November 12 2012 12:26 GMT
#489
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono?


I know that Chuan landed TWO Chronos that won IG TWO team fights in mid game when they were behind. Everything else is sheer imagination.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 12 2012 12:27 GMT
#490
On November 12 2012 21:23 saltywet wrote:
so many noobs would have left after that 8-2 beginning. mindblown by iG's awesomeness

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=380789

Sigh.. I really hope valve can come up with a good solution.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 12 2012 12:27 GMT
#491
awesome game.

And please dont keep saying chinese doesn't know the power of PL. PL was there at the very start of chinese doto era.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
November 12 2012 12:27 GMT
#492
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

No stolen Void = IG never had a shot at winning this game.


dafuk? iG won those battles through perfect shackleshots and ravages. not chronosphere.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
November 12 2012 12:27 GMT
#493
YYF played that game extremely well. Made sure they won the important teamfights early to turn the game around to their favor.
리노크 👑
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:30:20
November 12 2012 12:28 GMT
#494
On November 12 2012 21:26 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono?


I know that Chuan landed TWO Chronos that won IG TWO team fights in mid game when they were behind. Everything else is sheer imagination.

Your idea of using PL instead of Void to stall out the game long enough to be won by DK is just your overactive imagination at work.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 12 2012 12:30 GMT
#495
Listen, PL is good if you have like 8 images starting the fight but you don't and probably never will until they're pushing your base or you're pushing theirs. If your team is getting wrecked and dived what are you gonna accomplish if you tp in as compared to a void? PL is really not difficult to kill at all against a good team with a lot of aoe early on. Rubick and windrunner alone will destroy those illusions in no time in the early game. He's also pretty easy to smoke gank.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
November 12 2012 12:31 GMT
#496
i think i have just missed two epic games?
POGGERS
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
November 12 2012 12:31 GMT
#497
On November 12 2012 21:31 konadora wrote:
i think i have just missed two epic games?


Aahahahahahaha you have no idea.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 12 2012 12:31 GMT
#498
On November 12 2012 21:31 konadora wrote:
i think i have just missed two epic games?

yes. absolutely. shame on you.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
November 12 2012 12:32 GMT
#499
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono? It's not like they had Luna ulti, Tide ulti, WR shackle+powershot, telekinesis, NS or anything...

The counter chronos were flashy and locked down the supports, but tombstone zombies and rhasta wards and venomancer wards+poison (hmmm, sounds like they really planned the void pick) were still there.

It's DK's fault for not fending off ig's nightstalker led aggression. The countergank into the smoke gank in their woods, which led to a full luna+tide ult was really bad.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 12 2012 12:32 GMT
#500
Btw. did http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/ block Europe access? Can't connect to it. Getting a splash page instead of the usual loading page
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