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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 12 2012 12:32 GMT
#501
Nicely done iG, great show of games today.
WriterXiao8~~
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
November 12 2012 12:33 GMT
#502
On November 12 2012 21:31 konadora wrote:
i think i have just missed two epic games?

You have missed two very good games, I would recommend the second one more than the first though.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Slythape
Profile Joined October 2010
Malaysia689 Posts
November 12 2012 12:33 GMT
#503
yes you did kona
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:34:17
November 12 2012 12:33 GMT
#504
On November 12 2012 21:32 SilverStar wrote:
Btw. did http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/ block Europe access? Can't connect to it. Getting a splash page instead of the usual loading page

http://live.neotv.cn/live/pipe-20

On November 12 2012 21:33 Kittan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:31 konadora wrote:
i think i have just missed two epic games?

You have missed two very good games, I would recommend the second one more than the first though.

The first one was stompier, but had a more interesting draft.
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 12 2012 12:34 GMT
#505
On November 12 2012 21:28 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:26 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:08 Azarkon wrote:
Picking Void vs. Rubick has never been a great idea. Again, PL - learn to love the lancer.

I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono?


I know that Chuan landed TWO Chronos that won IG TWO team fights in mid game when they were behind. Everything else is sheer imagination.

Your idea of using PL instead of Void to stall out the game long enough to be won by DK is just your imagination at work.


You know that PL doesn't HAVE to go Radiance, correct?
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
November 12 2012 12:34 GMT
#506
On November 12 2012 21:32 SilverStar wrote:
Btw. did http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/ block Europe access? Can't connect to it. Getting a splash page instead of the usual loading page

It's the same for me, just the page is down.

Go to http://live.neotv.cn/live/pipe-20 and click the middle button between PPLive and PPS. It's the same thing as fengyunzhibo.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 12 2012 12:34 GMT
#507
On November 12 2012 21:34 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:32 SilverStar wrote:
Btw. did http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/ block Europe access? Can't connect to it. Getting a splash page instead of the usual loading page

It's the same for me, just the page is down.

Go to http://live.neotv.cn/live/pipe-20 and click the middle button between PPLive and PPS. It's the same thing as fengyunzhibo.

Thanks for the help all.
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:36:13
November 12 2012 12:35 GMT
#508
On November 12 2012 21:34 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:28 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:26 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:09 Itsmedudeman wrote:
[quote]
I think PL is too much afk farm against a team where you need to countergank or everyone just dies and you lose in 20 minutes

you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono?


I know that Chuan landed TWO Chronos that won IG TWO team fights in mid game when they were behind. Everything else is sheer imagination.

Your idea of using PL instead of Void to stall out the game long enough to be won by DK is just your imagination at work.


You know that PL doesn't HAVE to go Radiance, correct?

Sure, just walk in with Diffusal Blade or Manta Style. I'm sure iG will stand and watch as you teamwipe them. You'll definitely be a lot more than Void with chrono.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
November 12 2012 12:35 GMT
#509
And especially for all the people talking about carry pl and such, this game is a great example of the iceiceice luna vs zhou luna article.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=370317
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
November 12 2012 12:35 GMT
#510
--- Nuked ---
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
November 12 2012 12:36 GMT
#511
sigh i was out and was checking twitter and saw GoDz's tweets... apparently game 1, burning went berserk mode or some shit?

waiting for VODs @_@
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 12 2012 12:37 GMT
#512
On November 12 2012 21:35 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:34 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:28 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:26 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
[quote]
you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono?


I know that Chuan landed TWO Chronos that won IG TWO team fights in mid game when they were behind. Everything else is sheer imagination.

Your idea of using PL instead of Void to stall out the game long enough to be won by DK is just your imagination at work.


You know that PL doesn't HAVE to go Radiance, correct?

Sure, just walk in with Diffusal Blade or Manta Style. I'm sure iG will stand and watch as you teamwipe them. It'll definitely be a lot more than Void with chrono.

Not only that but you just can't unless the rest of your team has amazing team fight presence and can protect you 100%. PL with diffusal? You're gonna die if they focus you instantly and your illusions do shit alone at that level of farm.
allen_ami
Profile Joined December 2010
China1392 Posts
November 12 2012 12:37 GMT
#513
fengyunzhibo is down just coz of the ongoing congress meeting in Beijing...

it will be back up in a week or two
Single boy, single boy, single all the way. Online game, masturbate, we go all the way, hey! Single boy, single boy, why can't I be gay? No more wait, no more hate, let us all be gay!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 12 2012 12:38 GMT
#514
On November 12 2012 21:35 CountChocula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:34 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:28 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:26 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:11 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
[quote]
you dont need to afk farm and get a fast radiance. you can get aquila (mb drums) + diffusal and start fighting with your team

PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono?


I know that Chuan landed TWO Chronos that won IG TWO team fights in mid game when they were behind. Everything else is sheer imagination.

Your idea of using PL instead of Void to stall out the game long enough to be won by DK is just your imagination at work.


You know that PL doesn't HAVE to go Radiance, correct?

Sure, just walk in with Diffusal Blade or Manta Style. See how much damage you can do in the teamfight. It'll definitely be a lot more than Void with chrono.


You understand that Void does not just jump in and Chrono vs. a team that has Rubick, correct? You know that PL is able to spam his nuke and never commit while burning the opponent's mana, while Void has no ability to do damage except when he commits with his ult?

Void is a hero that has zero ways to delay / stall / harass.
CountChocula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2068 Posts
November 12 2012 12:38 GMT
#515
On November 12 2012 21:37 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:35 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:34 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:28 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:26 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:25 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:24 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:23 CountChocula wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:17 Azarkon wrote:
On November 12 2012 21:14 SirMilford wrote:
[quote]
PL is countered by the AOE from luna/tide/rubick to hard.

It isn't a case of PL vs Void, void is a good pick considering this lineup!


PL is a decent counter AGAINST Luna, because till Luna gets up big items, his images tank her auto attack just fine and they eat up Eclipse charges.

PL is garbage in teamfights until he gets massive items. DK would've gotten double-raxed after those early fights instead of just losing T3 tower and got creamed even harder even earlier. Void was the only one keeping them in the game. PL would've lost them the game with 99.9% certainty.


Haha what? Void is the CAUSE of the IG comeback.

Do you really think iG wouldn't have been able to come back without stealing chrono?


I know that Chuan landed TWO Chronos that won IG TWO team fights in mid game when they were behind. Everything else is sheer imagination.

Your idea of using PL instead of Void to stall out the game long enough to be won by DK is just your imagination at work.


You know that PL doesn't HAVE to go Radiance, correct?

Sure, just walk in with Diffusal Blade or Manta Style. I'm sure iG will stand and watch as you teamwipe them. It'll definitely be a lot more than Void with chrono.

Not only that but you just can't unless the rest of your team has amazing team fight presence and can protect you 100%. PL with diffusal? You're gonna die if they focus you instantly and your illusions do shit alone at that level of farm.

Yeah, picking PL against mass AoE is retarded unless you're a masochist and enjoy punishment.
Writer我会让他们连馒头都吃不到 Those championships owed me over the years, I will take them back one by one.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
November 12 2012 12:38 GMT
#516
On November 12 2012 21:36 konadora wrote:
sigh i was out and was checking twitter and saw GoDz's tweets... apparently game 1, burning went berserk mode or some shit?

waiting for VODs @_@

VODs already here: http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit/b/339518352
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 12 2012 12:38 GMT
#517
On November 12 2012 21:36 konadora wrote:
sigh i was out and was checking twitter and saw GoDz's tweets... apparently game 1, burning went berserk mode or some shit?

waiting for VODs @_@


Void best carry yo!!!

But i highly recommend game2 but watch if after you watched game1. How iG immediately make up a strategy against undy after first game. Amazing.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 12 2012 12:38 GMT
#518
I swear to god every LR thread is Azarkon vs the world
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 12:39:53
November 12 2012 12:39 GMT
#519
I dunno why BurNing doesn't go MoM after battle fury on Void.. Its insanely cost effective, all he had to do was make sure he hit WR in his chronospheres.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
November 12 2012 12:39 GMT
#520
On November 12 2012 21:38 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 21:36 konadora wrote:
sigh i was out and was checking twitter and saw GoDz's tweets... apparently game 1, burning went berserk mode or some shit?

waiting for VODs @_@

VODs already here: http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit/b/339518352

something to watch while waiting yay THANKS
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