DreamHack Dota 2 Invitational - Page 27

On March 19 2013 08:23 dfs wrote:
So the game was scheduled very late in the first place, then it couldn't start in time without VP's fault, so it got pushed even further which was not accaptable for VP, so they tried to ask for reschedule and were denied. Definately VP's fault.

On March 19 2013 08:34 andyrau wrote:

It's not about the blame on one party at this point.
It's fucking stupid to assume that schedules are going to be kept, especially in e-sports. Besides, VP was the one that thought it was acceptable to play at 1am themselves in the first place, I'm not sure how you can exclude them from a share of the blame. Unless they were supremely confident they could smash the bo3 in 2 15 minute stomps, they were going to play until 3am no matter what.
I mean, sure, you can shit on GDstudios/DH for scheduling these matches so close in chronological proximity, but I'd probably say the majority of the fault lies with VP. Obviously they felt this tournament wasn't important enough, or they wouldn't perform to their maximum potential after 3am, or they were confident they'd get out of this group even with a walkover loss.

Either way, exclusive blame on one party is biased and shortsighted based off the information made public; the fact that VP withdrew even before the bo3 ended further dilutes their case.

On March 19 2013 08:28 Scaramanga wrote:
Does anyone want to write me up some game recaps? A live report thread without any live reporting is annoying when you can't catch the games.

On March 19 2013 06:50 Proseat wrote:
Maybe they should have played the VP vs Liquid match first, then the QPAnDas vs Liquid one. Oh well.

I think VP was told when they would have to play when they were asked if they wanted to play. Pretty crappy of them to pull out

On March 19 2013 09:27 Adebisi wrote:

If VP had informed us at a time that wasn't 1 hour before the intended match start time, I think 100% we would have done this (infact I would have preferred that schedule, as arguably TL vs QPAD is the more 'hype' or at least fan favorite match for the western audience). Unfortunately they came to me very late and there was just nothing we could do. We already have a very busy schedule with the studio (grp B starting soon, and 3 other regular shows, remember this is a studio production, not the typical skype call with an overlay) so rescheduling is not as easy and its actually very unfair to Team Liquid no matter the situation. We already bent over backwards to work around other cups that insist on doing Round Robin leagues with 12+ teams that last months, I hate giving a FF win, but there's nothing else we can do.

FYI the first match running long was not the issue, the start time they agreed to was the issue. Even if the TL vs QPAD match finished ahead of schedule, VP wouldn't have played tonight at that time.



No, when we invited them as replacements we rebuilt the schedule and worked with them on that, we didn't just slot them into EG's times.

Either way I apologize and it sucks, we did everything we could to avoid this kind of situation, but shit happens.

Anyway, there will be a rebroadcast of TL vs QPAD tonight for anyone interested starting at 9pm EDT.

On March 19 2013 09:27 Adebisi wrote:

If VP had informed us at a time that wasn't 1 hour before the intended match start time, I think 100% we would have done this (infact I would have preferred that schedule, as arguably TL vs QPAD is the more 'hype' or at least fan favorite match for the western audience). Unfortunately they came to me very late and there was just nothing we could do. We already have a very busy schedule with the studio (grp B starting soon, and 3 other regular shows, remember this is a studio production, not the typical skype call with an overlay) so rescheduling is not as easy and its actually very unfair to Team Liquid no matter the situation. We already bent over backwards to work around other cups that insist on doing Round Robin leagues with 12+ teams that last months, I hate giving a FF win, but there's nothing else we can do.

FYI the first match running long was not the issue, the start time they agreed to was the issue. Even if the TL vs QPAD match finished ahead of schedule, VP wouldn't have played tonight at that time.



No, when we invited them as replacements we rebuilt the schedule and worked with them on that, we didn't just slot them into EG's times.

Either way I apologize and it sucks, we did everything we could to avoid this kind of situation, but shit happens.

Anyway, there will be a rebroadcast of TL vs QPAD tonight for anyone interested starting at 9pm EDT.

On March 19 2013 09:27 Adebisi wrote:
No, when we invited them as replacements we rebuilt the schedule and worked with them on that, we didn't just slot them into EG's times.

Either way I apologize and it sucks, we did everything we could to avoid this kind of situation, but shit happens.

Anyway, there will be a rebroadcast of TL vs QPAD tonight for anyone interested starting at 9pm EDT.

On March 19 2013 18:26 AwfuL_ wrote:
http://gosugamers.net/dota2/news/23258-liquid-defeats-qpandas-for-dh-invitational-lead

According to the above article VP is effectively already out. Now that their upcoming match is meaningless I suppose VP could just forfeit that one as well and give QPANDAS the defwin?

По ситуации с тех пором против Liquid на DreamHack Invitational.
Для начала стоит конечно попросить прощения у организаторов турнира, хотя я это уже сделал в личной беседе, когда и принималось решение о получении нами тех луза.
Тех луз мы получили по собственной инициативе, ввиду того что не сочли возможным начинать игру бо3 в 01.30 по Москве. Тут сразу две проблемы было, первая это то, что игра изначально назначено на позднее время (полночь по Москве) и второе, что она задержалась на целых полтора часа.
Стоит понимать, что мы не просто так восприняли задержку в штыки и мол отказались, нет нет, если бы игра изначально стояла часов на 8 вечера, мы бы конечно сыграли бы с любыми задержками, но 01.30 для нас уже очень поздно.
Как к такому пришло? Ну очевидно, что администраторов изначально не предупредили о том что мы имеем специфический для Европы часовой пояс и нам довольно важно начинать матчи как можно раньше. Естественно тот факт что администраторов не предупредили об этом целиком и полностью вина нашей организации и некоем образом не является ошибкой или злым умыслом администраторов DreamHack Invitational.
Надеюсь я более менее смог пояснить что именно случилось, внутри организации виновные получат по шапке, ну я надеюсь, и таких косяков больше не будет.